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thank you thank you ryan for having me

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your show evid listener so uh yeah very

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pleased to be here

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thanks man well i really appreciate that

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i mean hey we were supposed to meet up

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in uh at contact in the desert which was

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supposed to be this summer but um

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such is life the world is kind of

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falling apart but um

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hey man hopefully next year we'll be

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able to uh chat in the desert

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yeah that would be great uh here's

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everything you've done um for for

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not know this about you you served in

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ufos for hours so i think i've done my

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astronomical ones which are up and

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it

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for you and then sort of after that

285
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um they talked about oh yeah because i

286
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was

287
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obviously asking about nessie and this

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couple said um

289
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by the way the wife uh i i could do a

290
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bit more research on it

291
00:10:24,870 --> 00:10:22,800
right now but we haven't got time but i

292
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remember using my my memory

293
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abilities uh that she was an ex

294
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supermodel or something like that or she

295
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was an ex uh miss

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uh universe type uh

297
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lady a quite interesting interesting

298
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past the guy um i'm not sure i can't

299
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remember

300
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his what his deal was but then you know

301
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you can think of me there if she was an

302
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ex

303
00:10:46,949 --> 00:10:45,680
miss universe you know i probably had my

304
00:10:49,030 --> 00:10:46,959
mind more on on what

305
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what she was talking about uh but we

306
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were next thing i know we're in the

307
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backyard

308
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and uh we're looking up at the stars you

309
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said like the cushions were already

310
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there this is something we do all the

311
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time she said

312
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and we're looking up with the binoculars

313
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um my son was there too

314
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my my eldest and he would have been gosh

315
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he must have been about six or

316
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six or seven then um the little one i

317
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don't think was i think he would have

318
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been um

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cuddled up with mum somewhere inside but

320
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we looked up and with the binoculars and

321
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we're just looking at the stars and then

322
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she said just keep an eye just keep

323
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keep looking and you'll see some of the

324
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um lights that move

325
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in a weird uh pattern and i'm thinking

326
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oh yeah this could be satellites or

327
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anything like that i'm just kept looking

328
00:11:29,670 --> 00:11:28,320
we kept looking and then all of a sudden

329
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entered into the um

330
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into the binoculars uh came

331
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a light that moved in a squiggly fashion

332
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and then shot off in a weird direction

333
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and there was no other uh excuse for

334
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that other than

335
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uh i said to her i think i've seen one

336
00:11:46,389 --> 00:11:45,200
and she said did it move like this and i

337
00:11:49,030 --> 00:11:46,399
said yes and she zipped

338
00:11:49,750 --> 00:11:49,040
that's them we see them all the time and

339
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and then when i

340
00:11:55,509 --> 00:11:52,800
saw them again in that same fashion in

341
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uh contact in the desert last year and

342
00:11:59,509 --> 00:11:56,320
the year before

343
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i've been i've been twice now um

344
00:12:04,069 --> 00:12:02,320
you know it it made sense to me and the

345
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most exciting one was last year when i

346
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when i

347
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put the uh night vision goggles up

348
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when you if you ever get to go to um

349
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contact in the desert listeners uh

350
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there's usually some

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dudes hanging around uh either selling

352
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or at least just

353
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giving people a go with these amazing

354
00:12:28,069 --> 00:12:25,040
very expensive tech uh night vision

355
00:12:30,310 --> 00:12:28,079
binocular systems that

356
00:12:31,509 --> 00:12:30,320
are really an absolute must if you want

357
00:12:34,790 --> 00:12:31,519
to be a um

358
00:12:36,629 --> 00:12:34,800
a ufo spotter because these things

359
00:12:38,629 --> 00:12:36,639
are fantastic and as soon as i put them

360
00:12:40,470 --> 00:12:38,639
up almost like i willed it to happen

361
00:12:42,069 --> 00:12:40,480
this thing just came straight into my

362
00:12:43,910 --> 00:12:42,079
field of view did it like

363
00:12:45,269 --> 00:12:43,920
almost like if it was a hot rod a

364
00:12:46,710 --> 00:12:45,279
doughnut it was like

365
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did a little circle and then did a

366
00:12:51,430 --> 00:12:48,639
squiggle and then darted out

367
00:12:52,870 --> 00:12:51,440
and i was like okay so that that was not

368
00:12:55,670 --> 00:12:52,880
a satellite that was that was

369
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and and oh and it happened immediately

370
00:12:57,829 --> 00:12:56,079
and

371
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that kind of spooked me out a little bit

372
00:13:01,269 --> 00:12:59,839
but unfortunately that has been my only

373
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i haven't seen anything close

374
00:13:05,990 --> 00:13:04,320
i haven't seen um you know and i'm very

375
00:13:07,590 --> 00:13:06,000
envious of that driving along and the

376
00:13:08,949 --> 00:13:07,600
power of your car running out and all of

377
00:13:13,829 --> 00:13:08,959
a sudden there's a light

378
00:13:16,230 --> 00:13:13,839
uh so but yeah a believer of course

379
00:13:18,310 --> 00:13:16,240
awesome man well hey i mean look for

380
00:13:21,190 --> 00:13:18,320
every close encounter there's

381
00:13:22,949 --> 00:13:21,200
incredible things going on uh just

382
00:13:24,710 --> 00:13:22,959
beyond our atmosphere that we

383
00:13:26,949 --> 00:13:24,720
just can't explain it and sometimes for

384
00:13:28,710 --> 00:13:26,959
me that's just as exciting as if it were

385
00:13:30,550 --> 00:13:28,720
alien or something like that you know

386
00:13:32,550 --> 00:13:30,560
it's it's science we haven't discovered

387
00:13:34,710 --> 00:13:32,560
yet it's anomalies out there that

388
00:13:36,230 --> 00:13:34,720
we just don't know so i mean the fact

389
00:13:38,310 --> 00:13:36,240
that you saw anything is

390
00:13:40,069 --> 00:13:38,320
is huge and like you said you know i i

391
00:13:42,470 --> 00:13:40,079
want to get your opinions on this later

392
00:13:44,230 --> 00:13:42,480
like willing these things to happen um

393
00:13:46,470 --> 00:13:44,240
that's that's kind of a big part of

394
00:13:47,750 --> 00:13:46,480
i think where a lot of this ufo stuff is

395
00:13:50,790 --> 00:13:47,760
heading um but

396
00:13:53,030 --> 00:13:50,800
we'll talk about that um all right so

397
00:13:54,870 --> 00:13:53,040
my my next question for you is the

398
00:13:56,550 --> 00:13:54,880
x-files i'm a huge fan

399
00:13:58,629 --> 00:13:56,560
so i'm sure you knew this is going to

400
00:14:02,150 --> 00:13:58,639
come up at some point in the interview

401
00:14:05,189 --> 00:14:02,160
um how did it happen it's by far

402
00:14:06,150 --> 00:14:05,199
my favorite episode of all what 11 12

403
00:14:08,550 --> 00:14:06,160
seasons

404
00:14:09,509 --> 00:14:08,560
that they've done oh god man it was

405
00:14:12,150 --> 00:14:09,519
brilliantly

406
00:14:13,829 --> 00:14:12,160
written and uh performed by everyone

407
00:14:15,110 --> 00:14:13,839
involved but this is one of the biggest

408
00:14:17,829 --> 00:14:15,120
listener questions i got

409
00:14:19,350 --> 00:14:17,839
what was it like working on the x-files

410
00:14:21,829 --> 00:14:19,360
how did it come to be

411
00:14:23,269 --> 00:14:21,839
and uh yeah give us maybe the rundown of

412
00:14:25,509 --> 00:14:23,279
all that and how you got to wear the

413
00:14:28,790 --> 00:14:25,519
cold jack the night stalker oh yeah

414
00:14:31,030 --> 00:14:28,800
hat yeah so i guess so we can start off

415
00:14:34,069 --> 00:14:31,040
by saying i willed it to happen

416
00:14:35,509 --> 00:14:34,079
and uh there was an

417
00:14:37,670 --> 00:14:35,519
alien download in the middle of the

418
00:14:39,430 --> 00:14:37,680
night and i went yep i mean i don't know

419
00:14:40,230 --> 00:14:39,440
i just think i mean i obviously i have a

420
00:14:42,629 --> 00:14:40,240
good agent

421
00:14:45,030 --> 00:14:42,639
to to to get through this one real quick

422
00:14:48,150 --> 00:14:45,040
but also give as many details as i can

423
00:14:49,590 --> 00:14:48,160
um you know i have a good agent i and so

424
00:14:51,509 --> 00:14:49,600
i do get good auditions

425
00:14:52,629 --> 00:14:51,519
and i don't get many but i get

426
00:14:55,590 --> 00:14:52,639
interesting ones

427
00:14:56,949 --> 00:14:55,600
and for some reason this came up and it

428
00:15:00,389 --> 00:14:56,959
kind of made sense to me

429
00:15:02,230 --> 00:15:00,399
so inigo now you know

430
00:15:04,710 --> 00:15:02,240
another interesting thing is that when

431
00:15:08,230 --> 00:15:04,720
the x-files was in its um

432
00:15:09,430 --> 00:15:08,240
uh most uh oh god i hate it when i can't

433
00:15:13,269 --> 00:15:09,440
come up with the words

434
00:15:15,670 --> 00:15:13,279
um popular uh stance

435
00:15:17,350 --> 00:15:15,680
in the world in the 90s i was in the

436
00:15:19,110 --> 00:15:17,360
army so i didn't see

437
00:15:20,629 --> 00:15:19,120
a lot of it i had to catch up with it

438
00:15:24,150 --> 00:15:20,639
and yet in later years

439
00:15:27,350 --> 00:15:24,160
now what i did see with it uh was mainly

440
00:15:28,389 --> 00:15:27,360
a drama show so here's me now getting an

441
00:15:31,670 --> 00:15:28,399
audition for this

442
00:15:34,150 --> 00:15:31,680
for this uh the new the comeback season

443
00:15:35,350 --> 00:15:34,160
uh i think was it 20 20 years later

444
00:15:37,990 --> 00:15:35,360
something like that

445
00:15:38,470 --> 00:15:38,000
um and i'm thinking oh here we go okay

446
00:15:42,150 --> 00:15:38,480
here's

447
00:15:44,949 --> 00:15:42,160
dramatically

448
00:15:45,749 --> 00:15:44,959
uh because anyone who knows me i'm a

449
00:15:48,629 --> 00:15:45,759
comedic

450
00:15:49,990 --> 00:15:48,639
improvised actor and uh that those are

451
00:15:53,910 --> 00:15:50,000
my skill sets although

452
00:15:54,710 --> 00:15:53,920
i like to think i could do a good job uh

453
00:15:56,629 --> 00:15:54,720
in a drama

454
00:15:58,069 --> 00:15:56,639
but now maybe i'm getting my chance so i

455
00:16:01,269 --> 00:15:58,079
go along to your audition

456
00:16:02,550 --> 00:16:01,279
now the sides were very minimal so

457
00:16:04,470 --> 00:16:02,560
and when i say that i mean the little

458
00:16:05,509 --> 00:16:04,480
bit of script they give you to do your

459
00:16:07,350 --> 00:16:05,519
audition with because they didn't want

460
00:16:08,550 --> 00:16:07,360
it very top secret at this stage it was

461
00:16:11,509 --> 00:16:08,560
a really

462
00:16:12,550 --> 00:16:11,519
uh a big secret that this uh well it

463
00:16:14,470 --> 00:16:12,560
wasn't so big i think

464
00:16:16,389 --> 00:16:14,480
as soon as it leaked out that the this

465
00:16:18,310 --> 00:16:16,399
phenomenal show was coming back everyone

466
00:16:20,710 --> 00:16:18,320
started talking about it but yet

467
00:16:22,470 --> 00:16:20,720
the ideas for the episodes and of course

468
00:16:23,350 --> 00:16:22,480
you know they were very very top secret

469
00:16:25,350 --> 00:16:23,360
so i got these

470
00:16:26,710 --> 00:16:25,360
i like half a piece of paper to look at

471
00:16:29,590 --> 00:16:26,720
when i went in there

472
00:16:30,949 --> 00:16:29,600
and uh i delivered these lines and by

473
00:16:33,110 --> 00:16:30,959
the way the lines in this

474
00:16:35,509 --> 00:16:33,120
audition it was certainly not comedic at

475
00:16:36,790 --> 00:16:35,519
all i think i had to give a little part

476
00:16:39,509 --> 00:16:36,800
of the monologue

477
00:16:40,949 --> 00:16:39,519
about uh the fact that i was a human for

478
00:16:44,150 --> 00:16:40,959
the first time it didn't make

479
00:16:46,389 --> 00:16:44,160
much sense to me um and i just

480
00:16:49,509 --> 00:16:46,399
did the job i thought i could as if it

481
00:16:52,550 --> 00:16:49,519
was uh if i was delivering a dramatic

482
00:16:56,069 --> 00:16:52,560
performance and i um

483
00:17:00,389 --> 00:16:56,079
it was very brief and i walked away

484
00:17:02,790 --> 00:17:00,399
and i was uh called back

485
00:17:04,390 --> 00:17:02,800
before i got to the car uh what the

486
00:17:07,510 --> 00:17:04,400
runner came through

487
00:17:09,350 --> 00:17:07,520
and he said um hey listen can you

488
00:17:10,870 --> 00:17:09,360
uh are you available for these dates

489
00:17:12,230 --> 00:17:10,880
just checking you know and when you get

490
00:17:13,669 --> 00:17:12,240
the old are you available for these

491
00:17:15,270 --> 00:17:13,679
dates as an actor

492
00:17:17,350 --> 00:17:15,280
your ears prick up and you think oh here

493
00:17:20,870 --> 00:17:17,360
we go got a good chance here

494
00:17:22,230 --> 00:17:20,880
and then and then i got a call on my way

495
00:17:23,990 --> 00:17:22,240
home

496
00:17:25,590 --> 00:17:24,000
about the moustache i had a moustache at

497
00:17:28,870 --> 00:17:25,600
the point at that point

498
00:17:30,150 --> 00:17:28,880
and uh can you can you are you willing

499
00:17:31,909 --> 00:17:30,160
to lose the moustache

500
00:17:33,830 --> 00:17:31,919
and you know for a split second you

501
00:17:35,510 --> 00:17:33,840
think to yourself oh no there's no way

502
00:17:37,669 --> 00:17:35,520
i'm going to lose that sorry that was we

503
00:17:40,470 --> 00:17:37,679
were so close guys

504
00:17:42,549 --> 00:17:40,480
but of course yes what mustache i'm

505
00:17:45,510 --> 00:17:42,559
already shaving it as we're driving

506
00:17:45,990 --> 00:17:45,520
um but i said yeah of course that's not

507
00:17:49,110 --> 00:17:46,000
a problem

508
00:17:50,230 --> 00:17:49,120
and then when i got home i got another

509
00:17:51,590 --> 00:17:50,240
call

510
00:17:53,110 --> 00:17:51,600
and this is where i'm i'm already

511
00:17:54,549 --> 00:17:53,120
driving home thinking oh i've got this i

512
00:17:55,669 --> 00:17:54,559
must have this part this is this is

513
00:17:57,909 --> 00:17:55,679
amazing

514
00:17:59,590 --> 00:17:57,919
got another call when i got home saying

515
00:18:03,270 --> 00:17:59,600
hey listen we've just had a

516
00:18:04,710 --> 00:18:03,280
chat uh to darren morgan uh chris carter

517
00:18:05,750 --> 00:18:04,720
who by the way when i did the audition

518
00:18:07,669 --> 00:18:05,760
we're both in the room they were the

519
00:18:08,789 --> 00:18:07,679
only two guys and this and this you know

520
00:18:11,590 --> 00:18:08,799
assistant

521
00:18:12,630 --> 00:18:11,600
um and they said you don't need to lose

522
00:18:14,789 --> 00:18:12,640
the

523
00:18:16,630 --> 00:18:14,799
moustache and i'm thinking well hang on

524
00:18:18,310 --> 00:18:16,640
are you telling me i'm i've got this

525
00:18:20,070 --> 00:18:18,320
and i think i don't even can't remember

526
00:18:20,710 --> 00:18:20,080
then guys i was so excited with what was

527
00:18:23,029 --> 00:18:20,720
going on

528
00:18:23,990 --> 00:18:23,039
in my head getting this massive role

529
00:18:26,390 --> 00:18:24,000
possibly

530
00:18:27,909 --> 00:18:26,400
that i can't remember whether i think

531
00:18:28,150 --> 00:18:27,919
that phone call finished and then i had

532
00:18:32,789 --> 00:18:28,160
to

533
00:18:35,029 --> 00:18:32,799
agent uh from my manager saying

534
00:18:36,630 --> 00:18:35,039
uh that it's yours but i already knew at

535
00:18:37,990 --> 00:18:36,640
that point i mean

536
00:18:39,669 --> 00:18:38,000
they're checking the dates and the and

537
00:18:41,190 --> 00:18:39,679
they're they're shaving my mo and then

538
00:18:44,630 --> 00:18:41,200
and then bringing it back

539
00:18:46,470 --> 00:18:44,640
um so yeah i got it now

540
00:18:47,830 --> 00:18:46,480
i later found out that of course of

541
00:18:51,510 --> 00:18:47,840
course i've got that because the

542
00:18:53,350 --> 00:18:51,520
the role was for someone who uh was

543
00:18:54,549 --> 00:18:53,360
a human for the first time someone who

544
00:18:56,710 --> 00:18:54,559
is sort of naive

545
00:18:58,470 --> 00:18:56,720
to the ways of being a human someone who

546
00:19:01,750 --> 00:18:58,480
comes across with empathy

547
00:19:04,789 --> 00:19:01,760
but also you could imagine uh is

548
00:19:06,710 --> 00:19:04,799
is possibly from another world or

549
00:19:08,070 --> 00:19:06,720
or inhuman in some ways and that pretty

550
00:19:10,390 --> 00:19:08,080
much sums me up that's

551
00:19:11,909 --> 00:19:10,400
that's how i've always felt about myself

552
00:19:15,990 --> 00:19:11,919
uh so

553
00:19:18,710 --> 00:19:16,000
um long story even longer

554
00:19:20,950 --> 00:19:18,720
i do the show uh on the day right up to

555
00:19:21,669 --> 00:19:20,960
this point of the first day of of acting

556
00:19:23,270 --> 00:19:21,679
by the way

557
00:19:24,870 --> 00:19:23,280
you know having seen the show you know

558
00:19:27,590 --> 00:19:24,880
that my character has a really long

559
00:19:29,350 --> 00:19:27,600
monologue in the graveyard with dukofany

560
00:19:31,430 --> 00:19:29,360
and i was very nervous about that i i

561
00:19:33,990 --> 00:19:31,440
normally with with my roles as

562
00:19:34,710 --> 00:19:34,000
a comic as a comedy actor you know the

563
00:19:37,190 --> 00:19:34,720
script is

564
00:19:38,789 --> 00:19:37,200
uh there's less writing involved and you

565
00:19:39,350 --> 00:19:38,799
can play around with it now this writing

566
00:19:42,549 --> 00:19:39,360
was so

567
00:19:45,350 --> 00:19:42,559
great uh obviously

568
00:19:47,350 --> 00:19:45,360
um that i couldn't play with it and i

569
00:19:48,789 --> 00:19:47,360
was too scared to even ask if i could so

570
00:19:49,430 --> 00:19:48,799
i just had to really learn it so i

571
00:19:51,190 --> 00:19:49,440
remember

572
00:19:53,510 --> 00:19:51,200
i think it was vancouver and i was

573
00:19:55,510 --> 00:19:53,520
walking around for hours getting it all

574
00:19:57,029 --> 00:19:55,520
into my head a lot of blood people who

575
00:19:58,630 --> 00:19:57,039
haven't been involved in acting always

576
00:20:00,310 --> 00:19:58,640
think how do these

577
00:20:01,909 --> 00:20:00,320
how do these actors remember all of

578
00:20:03,350 --> 00:20:01,919
these lines and i often think that as

579
00:20:03,909 --> 00:20:03,360
well because you know i'm not i'm not a

580
00:20:06,549 --> 00:20:03,919
great

581
00:20:08,630 --> 00:20:06,559
memory guy uh in one ear out the other

582
00:20:11,110 --> 00:20:08,640
as my mother always used to say

583
00:20:12,230 --> 00:20:11,120
so but for this very very big role this

584
00:20:14,950 --> 00:20:12,240
is the most

585
00:20:16,230 --> 00:20:14,960
uh and i've done a few you know big

586
00:20:18,390 --> 00:20:16,240
roles in my life

587
00:20:20,630 --> 00:20:18,400
emphasis on the few but they have been

588
00:20:23,510 --> 00:20:20,640
rather big some of them uh but this

589
00:20:24,149 --> 00:20:23,520
for me personally was was the biggest

590
00:20:26,549 --> 00:20:24,159
because

591
00:20:27,750 --> 00:20:26,559
uh i love the sh uh the subject matter

592
00:20:29,510 --> 00:20:27,760
obviously and

593
00:20:30,789 --> 00:20:29,520
to be part of this phenomenon to be part

594
00:20:33,110 --> 00:20:30,799
of the x-files

595
00:20:34,230 --> 00:20:33,120
meant more to me than anything uh it's

596
00:20:36,970 --> 00:20:34,240
my jam baby

597
00:20:39,110 --> 00:20:36,980
uh as my mother always used to say so

598
00:20:40,390 --> 00:20:39,120
[Laughter]

599
00:20:41,669 --> 00:20:40,400
it's nice having you on the screen

600
00:20:42,870 --> 00:20:41,679
because i can see you laughing at the

601
00:20:44,310 --> 00:20:42,880
moment

602
00:20:53,270 --> 00:20:44,320
when i'm just looking at me i'm like

603
00:20:56,630 --> 00:20:55,430
i get to the graveyard and we start

604
00:20:59,029 --> 00:20:56,640
doing the scene

605
00:21:01,270 --> 00:20:59,039
and i'm dramaticing it out i'm like wow

606
00:21:01,990 --> 00:21:01,280
this look watch derby act look at this

607
00:21:05,190 --> 00:21:02,000
guy

608
00:21:08,310 --> 00:21:05,200
and then darren goes uh reese uh

609
00:21:10,149 --> 00:21:08,320
you know just just be yourself be

610
00:21:12,230 --> 00:21:10,159
you know you don't need to because

611
00:21:13,750 --> 00:21:12,240
sometimes if you're acting like

612
00:21:15,270 --> 00:21:13,760
you can tell with some people are acting

613
00:21:15,830 --> 00:21:15,280
or that guy's acting look at the way he

614
00:21:17,669 --> 00:21:15,840
oh what an

615
00:21:19,190 --> 00:21:17,679
actor but if you but you can't you've

616
00:21:20,149 --> 00:21:19,200
got to lose all that to actually be a

617
00:21:22,149 --> 00:21:20,159
good actor

618
00:21:23,990 --> 00:21:22,159
and so but i didn't think because by the

619
00:21:25,669 --> 00:21:24,000
way the scene was about me

620
00:21:28,549 --> 00:21:25,679
wanting to kill myself you know it was a

621
00:21:30,950 --> 00:21:28,559
pretty pretty horrific kind of idea

622
00:21:32,549 --> 00:21:30,960
um and the viewers at the time aren't

623
00:21:34,630 --> 00:21:32,559
sure what this guy's about

624
00:21:36,789 --> 00:21:34,640
why is he trying you know it's it's so

625
00:21:41,270 --> 00:21:36,799
brilliantly written this episode that it

626
00:21:42,830 --> 00:21:41,280
un and fathoms and fails and you help me

627
00:21:46,070 --> 00:21:42,840
out ryan it's uh

628
00:21:49,190 --> 00:21:46,080
yeah it feels unfilled there we go

629
00:21:51,029 --> 00:21:49,200
un unraveled unraveled

630
00:21:53,350 --> 00:21:51,039
i'll take that with that look it

631
00:21:56,070 --> 00:21:53,360
unravels throughout the episode

632
00:21:57,270 --> 00:21:56,080
that that uh you know why he is the way

633
00:21:59,350 --> 00:21:57,280
he is and in fact he

634
00:22:00,789 --> 00:21:59,360
you know he's he's he wasn't human first

635
00:22:03,590 --> 00:22:00,799
he was uh he was

636
00:22:04,230 --> 00:22:03,600
uh lizard first and then uh reptilian i

637
00:22:06,070 --> 00:22:04,240
should say

638
00:22:07,350 --> 00:22:06,080
and then became something he didn't want

639
00:22:09,430 --> 00:22:07,360
to be um

640
00:22:11,750 --> 00:22:09,440
so when i got the when i got the note

641
00:22:15,029 --> 00:22:11,760
from darren to um

642
00:22:17,110 --> 00:22:15,039
to have more fun with it uh

643
00:22:18,470 --> 00:22:17,120
old reesey came out and then the

644
00:22:21,110 --> 00:22:18,480
personality came out

645
00:22:21,750 --> 00:22:21,120
and then dukoffney you know had to it

646
00:22:26,870 --> 00:22:21,760
was

647
00:22:29,510 --> 00:22:26,880
i'm star struck by him obviously

648
00:22:30,310 --> 00:22:29,520
he's a little star struck by me we're

649
00:22:33,190 --> 00:22:30,320
getting the both

650
00:22:35,830 --> 00:22:33,200
both stars are striking and magic is

651
00:22:41,750 --> 00:22:38,870
yeah there you go wow man

652
00:22:43,110 --> 00:22:41,760
well um that that that sort of

653
00:22:45,750 --> 00:22:43,120
existential

654
00:22:46,870 --> 00:22:45,760
question in the episode is what really

655
00:22:49,190 --> 00:22:46,880
resonated with me

656
00:22:51,430 --> 00:22:49,200
and it kind of followed you throughout

657
00:22:52,230 --> 00:22:51,440
your work i mean you have this podcast

658
00:22:55,430 --> 00:22:52,240
called

659
00:22:57,750 --> 00:22:55,440
aliens like us and uh that kind of

660
00:22:59,430 --> 00:22:57,760
dips into you know these questions in

661
00:23:02,870 --> 00:22:59,440
this x-files episode of

662
00:23:03,909 --> 00:23:02,880
who are we why are we here um what makes

663
00:23:07,029 --> 00:23:03,919
us human

664
00:23:08,870 --> 00:23:07,039
uh and why you know the ev

665
00:23:10,470 --> 00:23:08,880
we all we've all asked these questions

666
00:23:11,350 --> 00:23:10,480
in our life you know why do i wake up

667
00:23:13,669 --> 00:23:11,360
every morning

668
00:23:15,590 --> 00:23:13,679
and go to work what could i be doing

669
00:23:16,470 --> 00:23:15,600
what should i be doing to make the world

670
00:23:18,630 --> 00:23:16,480
better and

671
00:23:20,549 --> 00:23:18,640
uh you know especially right now i think

672
00:23:21,350 --> 00:23:20,559
a lot of us are having a lot of time to

673
00:23:23,909 --> 00:23:21,360
self

674
00:23:26,870 --> 00:23:23,919
reflect in our lives you know because we

675
00:23:28,870 --> 00:23:26,880
we have the time to do it so i mean

676
00:23:30,710 --> 00:23:28,880
there's no better time to go back and

677
00:23:33,830 --> 00:23:30,720
kind of ask these questions

678
00:23:35,430 --> 00:23:33,840
and with your podcast um first of all i

679
00:23:35,990 --> 00:23:35,440
got to ask like where'd the title come

680
00:23:37,669 --> 00:23:36,000
from

681
00:23:39,029 --> 00:23:37,679
the the different meanings you can give

682
00:23:41,590 --> 00:23:39,039
to the title of your show

683
00:23:43,269 --> 00:23:41,600
is what really struck me so um let's i

684
00:23:45,830 --> 00:23:43,279
guess let's kind of dive into that yeah

685
00:23:49,750 --> 00:23:45,840
you know moving away from the x-files uh

686
00:23:51,669 --> 00:23:49,760
what made you want to do this podcast

687
00:23:53,190 --> 00:23:51,679
well obviously you know i'm into the

688
00:23:53,669 --> 00:23:53,200
subject matter and just even though

689
00:23:55,269 --> 00:23:53,679
we're

690
00:23:56,870 --> 00:23:55,279
moving away from the x-files i'll say

691
00:23:59,190 --> 00:23:56,880
one more thing about it because

692
00:23:59,990 --> 00:23:59,200
you you brought it up there when you're

693
00:24:02,070 --> 00:24:00,000
talking about

694
00:24:04,390 --> 00:24:02,080
the existentialism of the episode and

695
00:24:07,669 --> 00:24:04,400
and how it kind of uh

696
00:24:09,350 --> 00:24:07,679
makes sense and it's like a uh

697
00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:09,360
it's very relevant right now for our

698
00:24:14,789 --> 00:24:10,960
lives and how we're thinking

699
00:24:16,950 --> 00:24:14,799
um an interesting um i guess

700
00:24:18,789 --> 00:24:16,960
part of that the show that was happening

701
00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:18,799
for me at the time was that

702
00:24:22,070 --> 00:24:20,880
i was questioning my character was

703
00:24:24,149 --> 00:24:22,080
questioning his life

704
00:24:25,909 --> 00:24:24,159
questioning what it means to be a human

705
00:24:27,830 --> 00:24:25,919
and he he did not like it he didn't

706
00:24:31,029 --> 00:24:27,840
understand why he had to go to work

707
00:24:33,830 --> 00:24:31,039
uh he bought the dog dagu

708
00:24:34,549 --> 00:24:33,840
uh because he felt that that's what he's

709
00:24:36,789 --> 00:24:34,559
supposed to do

710
00:24:38,710 --> 00:24:36,799
and that gave him happiness which which

711
00:24:41,590 --> 00:24:38,720
is why people get pets and it's

712
00:24:42,870 --> 00:24:41,600
it really but here's the weird thing uh

713
00:24:44,710 --> 00:24:42,880
the synchronicity

714
00:24:46,310 --> 00:24:44,720
part that freaks me out is that my

715
00:24:49,909 --> 00:24:46,320
character if you remember

716
00:24:50,630 --> 00:24:49,919
his job he he worked at a um a cell

717
00:24:53,590 --> 00:24:50,640
phone

718
00:24:54,310 --> 00:24:53,600
store okay so that was his now in real

719
00:24:56,710 --> 00:24:54,320
life

720
00:24:57,669 --> 00:24:56,720
uh back in new zealand for many years

721
00:25:00,950 --> 00:24:57,679
and i've recently

722
00:25:04,549 --> 00:25:00,960
uh um done it again i was the

723
00:25:07,430 --> 00:25:04,559
the face of a cell phone campaign um

724
00:25:07,669 --> 00:25:07,440
in real life so the the this this kind

725
00:25:10,870 --> 00:25:07,679
of

726
00:25:12,870 --> 00:25:10,880
reality meets fiction uh blur

727
00:25:14,070 --> 00:25:12,880
was was happening in front of my eyes

728
00:25:15,990 --> 00:25:14,080
and of course also

729
00:25:18,070 --> 00:25:16,000
in my early years watched the x-file

730
00:25:21,350 --> 00:25:18,080
x-files and had imagined

731
00:25:22,710 --> 00:25:21,360
meeting uh mulder and scully and there i

732
00:25:26,789 --> 00:25:22,720
am meeting them

733
00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:28,149
you know and so for me with the

734
00:25:32,149 --> 00:25:30,240
imagination i have uh

735
00:25:34,149 --> 00:25:32,159
and and i cross between what is real and

736
00:25:35,909 --> 00:25:34,159
what isn't all the time in my head

737
00:25:37,430 --> 00:25:35,919
uh particularly when i do my stand-up

738
00:25:39,430 --> 00:25:37,440
and we can go more into that if there's

739
00:25:40,070 --> 00:25:39,440
any questions about that but i i've i've

740
00:25:43,190 --> 00:25:40,080
done

741
00:25:47,110 --> 00:25:43,200
stand-up for you know over over uh

742
00:25:49,350 --> 00:25:47,120
over 20 years now um and

743
00:25:50,310 --> 00:25:49,360
with the stories i tell on stage they're

744
00:25:53,669 --> 00:25:50,320
a mixture of

745
00:25:56,870 --> 00:25:53,679
reality plus my imagination extending

746
00:25:58,149 --> 00:25:56,880
uh into unreality to make things funnier

747
00:26:00,630 --> 00:25:58,159
than they really are

748
00:26:01,190 --> 00:26:00,640
and i confuse the audience quite often

749
00:26:02,870 --> 00:26:01,200
on

750
00:26:04,870 --> 00:26:02,880
you know did this really happen how much

751
00:26:05,430 --> 00:26:04,880
of this is true they always walk away

752
00:26:06,870 --> 00:26:05,440
and sometimes

753
00:26:08,470 --> 00:26:06,880
question me did that really happen i

754
00:26:09,990 --> 00:26:08,480
mean that's the thing with some with a

755
00:26:12,310 --> 00:26:10,000
usual thing with stand-ups but for

756
00:26:14,149 --> 00:26:12,320
me it can be way more mystical because

757
00:26:15,190 --> 00:26:14,159
i'll be talking about mermaids or jet

758
00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:15,200
packs and there's

759
00:26:18,789 --> 00:26:16,960
there's like i think you know knowing

760
00:26:20,710 --> 00:26:18,799
rhys maybe that did happen

761
00:26:22,390 --> 00:26:20,720
and so and and some of it to a certain

762
00:26:25,350 --> 00:26:22,400
degree has you know in

763
00:26:27,110 --> 00:26:25,360
these kind of occurrences but um here i

764
00:26:28,710 --> 00:26:27,120
go again with this 20 minute going off

765
00:26:31,669 --> 00:26:28,720
in a different direction thing

766
00:26:33,029 --> 00:26:31,679
but but to pull it back to pull it back

767
00:26:36,310 --> 00:26:33,039
um

768
00:26:39,830 --> 00:26:36,320
i will say that yeah

769
00:26:43,350 --> 00:26:39,840
the the synchronicity the universe

770
00:26:45,750 --> 00:26:43,360
uh making these decisions for me

771
00:26:47,350 --> 00:26:45,760
putting me in that character position

772
00:26:50,310 --> 00:26:47,360
putting me in that show

773
00:26:51,430 --> 00:26:50,320
and for that show to be a fantastic

774
00:26:53,510 --> 00:26:51,440
episode

775
00:26:54,789 --> 00:26:53,520
which you know they are hit and miss and

776
00:26:57,990 --> 00:26:54,799
for me to be luckily

777
00:26:58,470 --> 00:26:58,000
in one that was historically you know it

778
00:27:03,830 --> 00:26:58,480
was

779
00:27:05,029 --> 00:27:03,840
out of this world which is a cool thing

780
00:27:09,430 --> 00:27:05,039
to say on your show

781
00:27:12,390 --> 00:27:09,440
um and of you know we'd make it in there

782
00:27:13,990 --> 00:27:12,400
there's your soundbite um now you can

783
00:27:14,630 --> 00:27:14,000
just gotta say somewhere in the skies at

784
00:27:17,909 --> 00:27:14,640
some point

785
00:27:19,590 --> 00:27:17,919
then we'll be set yeah

786
00:27:21,350 --> 00:27:19,600
i'll pull that back in anyway i've

787
00:27:23,269 --> 00:27:21,360
petered out there which is one of my

788
00:27:24,870 --> 00:27:23,279
early character names peter out

789
00:27:27,669 --> 00:27:24,880
and he's a guy that would talk and would

790
00:27:31,750 --> 00:27:27,679
just slowly get quieter and quieter

791
00:27:34,950 --> 00:27:31,760
feed into the distance i love it

792
00:27:37,110 --> 00:27:34,960
yeah perfect um do i mean

793
00:27:38,389 --> 00:27:37,120
that's well i have to first i have to

794
00:27:41,669 --> 00:27:38,399
agree with you i mean

795
00:27:44,870 --> 00:27:41,679
i think you know people love or hate the

796
00:27:48,149 --> 00:27:44,880
the reboot of the x-files but um i think

797
00:27:50,549 --> 00:27:48,159
that episode you guys did uh it probably

798
00:27:52,070 --> 00:27:50,559
saved that entire season and i think the

799
00:27:53,110 --> 00:27:52,080
same could be said for the following

800
00:27:55,269 --> 00:27:53,120
season with

801
00:27:57,190 --> 00:27:55,279
their uh darren morgan episode in that

802
00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:57,200
season those are what people like

803
00:28:01,990 --> 00:28:00,240
that's what they crave you know

804
00:28:03,430 --> 00:28:02,000
monster of the week exactly literal

805
00:28:06,389 --> 00:28:03,440
monster of the week so

806
00:28:07,430 --> 00:28:06,399
um no i think it's it's amazing i i love

807
00:28:09,430 --> 00:28:07,440
how it kind of

808
00:28:10,710 --> 00:28:09,440
bleeds into different parts of your life

809
00:28:13,750 --> 00:28:10,720
and um i

810
00:28:16,149 --> 00:28:13,760
it kind of reminds me there's uh

811
00:28:17,909 --> 00:28:16,159
there's a quote i used to always go back

812
00:28:20,070 --> 00:28:17,919
to with um john keel

813
00:28:21,190 --> 00:28:20,080
and uh it's some i i don't know what

814
00:28:24,230 --> 00:28:21,200
verbatim but

815
00:28:25,190 --> 00:28:24,240
he says if you stare far enough out into

816
00:28:27,990 --> 00:28:25,200
the sky

817
00:28:28,870 --> 00:28:28,000
you'll eventually see the back of your

818
00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:28,880
own head

819
00:28:33,269 --> 00:28:31,520
and i always i know that one yeah that

820
00:28:34,230 --> 00:28:33,279
always blew my mind because i think it's

821
00:28:37,750 --> 00:28:34,240
right the more we

822
00:28:40,149 --> 00:28:37,760
search for answers and um get involved

823
00:28:42,950 --> 00:28:40,159
with this ufo thing or the paranormal

824
00:28:44,230 --> 00:28:42,960
the more we're looking for our own

825
00:28:46,710 --> 00:28:44,240
importance our own

826
00:28:48,070 --> 00:28:46,720
uh uh our own answers and all this i

827
00:28:50,789 --> 00:28:48,080
mean i told people

828
00:28:51,590 --> 00:28:50,799
you know there's that altruistic sense

829
00:28:54,549 --> 00:28:51,600
of yeah i want

830
00:28:55,669 --> 00:28:54,559
answers for the public on what ufos are

831
00:28:58,070 --> 00:28:55,679
and whatnot but

832
00:28:59,990 --> 00:28:58,080
honestly i want those answers for myself

833
00:29:02,470 --> 00:29:00,000
first and foremost i want to know

834
00:29:03,909 --> 00:29:02,480
what happened to me or why i saw this or

835
00:29:05,350 --> 00:29:03,919
what it all means and

836
00:29:07,510 --> 00:29:05,360
i think that's what it it always comes

837
00:29:09,350 --> 00:29:07,520
back to us like you said

838
00:29:11,590 --> 00:29:09,360
putting that mirror back on us yeah it

839
00:29:13,909 --> 00:29:11,600
is and the answers that you

840
00:29:14,630 --> 00:29:13,919
seek and hopefully you find are the

841
00:29:17,750 --> 00:29:14,640
answers

842
00:29:20,789 --> 00:29:17,760
that are personable to you and

843
00:29:21,669 --> 00:29:20,799
so you know will you will we ever solve

844
00:29:24,789 --> 00:29:21,679
this mystery

845
00:29:27,029 --> 00:29:24,799
well maybe maybe not as a

846
00:29:29,029 --> 00:29:27,039
no as humanity but individually we might

847
00:29:31,029 --> 00:29:29,039
be able to solve it for ourselves in our

848
00:29:33,190 --> 00:29:31,039
own head what we think they are

849
00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:33,200
and i you know just from reading i've

850
00:29:35,909 --> 00:29:34,080
been reading

851
00:29:37,830 --> 00:29:35,919
your book ryan i've got it here with me

852
00:29:40,070 --> 00:29:37,840
obviously and uh

853
00:29:41,590 --> 00:29:40,080
great book and and it's thought

854
00:29:42,789 --> 00:29:41,600
provoking because of the personal

855
00:29:45,830 --> 00:29:42,799
touches

856
00:29:46,310 --> 00:29:45,840
that you uh deal with in here because

857
00:29:49,750 --> 00:29:46,320
the

858
00:29:51,190 --> 00:29:49,760
bolts kind of

859
00:29:53,190 --> 00:29:51,200
what is this thing what was the speed

860
00:29:55,990 --> 00:29:53,200
what was the height uh it's

861
00:29:58,389 --> 00:29:56,000
it's our own personal thoughts these

862
00:30:00,870 --> 00:29:58,399
eyewitnesses what it means to them

863
00:30:02,470 --> 00:30:00,880
and and it gets you thinking because

864
00:30:04,710 --> 00:30:02,480
what do we have if we don't have the

865
00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:04,720
answers already inside our own brains

866
00:30:09,110 --> 00:30:06,720
and we just need those doors to open up

867
00:30:11,510 --> 00:30:09,120
and that's where we feel

868
00:30:13,190 --> 00:30:11,520
uh that the the mysteries can possibly

869
00:30:15,269 --> 00:30:13,200
be solved

870
00:30:16,870 --> 00:30:15,279
absolutely man well i i appreciate you

871
00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:16,880
saying that and i have to agree i mean

872
00:30:19,830 --> 00:30:17,760
that's why

873
00:30:21,669 --> 00:30:19,840
i wrote the book i i of course i care

874
00:30:23,269 --> 00:30:21,679
about what they saw in

875
00:30:25,029 --> 00:30:23,279
detail because you know we want to

876
00:30:25,830 --> 00:30:25,039
figure out what it was but end of the

877
00:30:27,909 --> 00:30:25,840
day like

878
00:30:29,269 --> 00:30:27,919
how did it impact them how did it change

879
00:30:31,029 --> 00:30:29,279
them and uh

880
00:30:32,950 --> 00:30:31,039
we'll talk later about you know that

881
00:30:35,750 --> 00:30:32,960
capital d disclosure but

882
00:30:35,990 --> 00:30:35,760
uh i think you know every person who

883
00:30:37,750 --> 00:30:36,000
sees

884
00:30:39,830 --> 00:30:37,760
something or experiences something

885
00:30:42,789 --> 00:30:39,840
that's a personal disclosure for them

886
00:30:44,070 --> 00:30:42,799
so um yeah i i appreciate your outlook

887
00:30:46,549 --> 00:30:44,080
on that and um

888
00:30:47,350 --> 00:30:46,559
kind of tying it back to uh to the

889
00:30:58,470 --> 00:30:47,360
podcast

890
00:31:04,870 --> 00:31:01,990
uh yeah um aliens like us who

891
00:31:06,070 --> 00:31:04,880
who did you do this with um yeah i guess

892
00:31:08,789 --> 00:31:06,080
the origin of that

893
00:31:10,070 --> 00:31:08,799
okay so cool so i have this previous to

894
00:31:12,630 --> 00:31:10,080
that i have a podcast

895
00:31:13,509 --> 00:31:12,640
called the cryptid factor right and i've

896
00:31:17,190 --> 00:31:13,519
been doing that

897
00:31:19,750 --> 00:31:17,200
since 2008 with my friend leon

898
00:31:21,350 --> 00:31:19,760
uh who was known as buttons on the show

899
00:31:23,110 --> 00:31:21,360
because he pushes all the buttons

900
00:31:23,750 --> 00:31:23,120
because he's the he's the tech he's the

901
00:31:32,789 --> 00:31:23,760
uh

902
00:31:34,070 --> 00:31:32,799
setting the levels and of course editing

903
00:31:35,350 --> 00:31:34,080
the whole thing so he's kind of the

904
00:31:38,630 --> 00:31:35,360
brains of the network

905
00:31:41,909 --> 00:31:38,640
um and we started off with david ferrier

906
00:31:44,230 --> 00:31:41,919
uh and then in later years we have uh

907
00:31:45,430 --> 00:31:44,240
the the band has changed uh we've got

908
00:31:48,950 --> 00:31:45,440
dan schreiber

909
00:31:52,310 --> 00:31:48,960
now that that podcast uh you know that

910
00:31:53,750 --> 00:31:52,320
always has and always will be um until

911
00:31:56,950 --> 00:31:53,760
we actually get some cash

912
00:31:57,669 --> 00:31:56,960
coming to us a hobby and we love it now

913
00:32:00,149 --> 00:31:57,679
we've got

914
00:32:02,310 --> 00:32:00,159
you know busy careers so it was really

915
00:32:04,630 --> 00:32:02,320
just an excuse as we started off

916
00:32:06,310 --> 00:32:04,640
um to get away from the wives for an

917
00:32:07,990 --> 00:32:06,320
hour on a saturday

918
00:32:09,669 --> 00:32:08,000
uh now i can tell you the the whole

919
00:32:10,950 --> 00:32:09,679
crazy history of the cryptid factor but

920
00:32:13,990 --> 00:32:10,960
we probably don't have time

921
00:32:17,190 --> 00:32:14,000
but to transition forward in time to now

922
00:32:19,830 --> 00:32:17,200
uh recently spotify coming to me

923
00:32:20,630 --> 00:32:19,840
and saying hey would you like to do a

924
00:32:25,430 --> 00:32:20,640
podcast

925
00:32:26,950 --> 00:32:25,440
hear you're into weird stuff i said yeah

926
00:32:29,750 --> 00:32:26,960
sure i mean

927
00:32:30,630 --> 00:32:29,760
i can do i haven't done one on uh

928
00:32:33,669 --> 00:32:30,640
particularly on

929
00:32:36,389 --> 00:32:33,679
on aliens or or ufology

930
00:32:38,310 --> 00:32:36,399
um i've done stuff on cryptids um but i

931
00:32:40,149 --> 00:32:38,320
could i was i'm very interested in

932
00:32:42,149 --> 00:32:40,159
and i'm sort of i was sort of mid not

933
00:32:42,789 --> 00:32:42,159
transitioning more into that field but

934
00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:42,799
certainly

935
00:32:46,149 --> 00:32:45,440
opening my own paranormal field up to

936
00:32:49,190 --> 00:32:46,159
include

937
00:32:50,710 --> 00:32:49,200
ufology more than i had in the past so i

938
00:32:52,950 --> 00:32:50,720
was excited about that idea

939
00:32:53,830 --> 00:32:52,960
um and i said to i said to spotify i

940
00:32:55,430 --> 00:32:53,840
won't put any

941
00:32:57,750 --> 00:32:55,440
i won't give any specific names i'll

942
00:33:00,630 --> 00:32:57,760
just call the people spotify

943
00:33:01,909 --> 00:33:00,640
i said to spotify i said nothing spots

944
00:33:04,310 --> 00:33:01,919
uh i've got

945
00:33:05,830 --> 00:33:04,320
a friend that i work with that i i

946
00:33:07,029 --> 00:33:05,840
really need to bounce off i've got to

947
00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:07,039
have buttons

948
00:33:10,470 --> 00:33:09,600
and so spotify is like all right uh i

949
00:33:12,549 --> 00:33:10,480
suppose so

950
00:33:14,710 --> 00:33:12,559
and then then they uh connected me up

951
00:33:17,669 --> 00:33:14,720
with another chaplain american

952
00:33:18,950 --> 00:33:17,679
ethan and so um next thing you know

953
00:33:21,830 --> 00:33:18,960
we've got our team

954
00:33:23,750 --> 00:33:21,840
and uh i came up with the name we you

955
00:33:25,509 --> 00:33:23,760
know it was it was up to me it was my

956
00:33:27,190 --> 00:33:25,519
my show so i i thought about it for a

957
00:33:29,110 --> 00:33:27,200
long time um

958
00:33:30,389 --> 00:33:29,120
one of my favorite movies was spies like

959
00:33:33,430 --> 00:33:30,399
us

960
00:33:34,310 --> 00:33:33,440
you remember that absolutely i i needed

961
00:33:37,590 --> 00:33:34,320
a catchy name

962
00:33:38,630 --> 00:33:37,600
and of course i love wordplay so aliens

963
00:33:40,230 --> 00:33:38,640
like us just

964
00:33:42,870 --> 00:33:40,240
made total sense to me when it came i

965
00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:42,880
thought oh that's it because not only do

966
00:33:49,909 --> 00:33:46,480
uh aliens actually like us hopefully

967
00:33:52,230 --> 00:33:49,919
um aliens are like us and also

968
00:33:53,430 --> 00:33:52,240
of course buttons and i uh were aliens

969
00:33:57,029 --> 00:33:53,440
in america aliens

970
00:33:58,710 --> 00:33:57,039
uh um by proxy of our position

971
00:34:01,590 --> 00:33:58,720
in the country so it just made total

972
00:34:04,870 --> 00:34:01,600
sense and then it came down to

973
00:34:07,909 --> 00:34:04,880
um yeah getting it done 10 episodes

974
00:34:08,629 --> 00:34:07,919
getting uh now spotify came came on

975
00:34:11,909 --> 00:34:08,639
board

976
00:34:15,190 --> 00:34:11,919
very um hands-on uh

977
00:34:16,069 --> 00:34:15,200
with regards to needing uh templates

978
00:34:18,149 --> 00:34:16,079
needing almost

979
00:34:20,149 --> 00:34:18,159
not so much scripts but certainly a lot

980
00:34:21,750 --> 00:34:20,159
of a lot of paperwork of what we were

981
00:34:23,430 --> 00:34:21,760
doing now in the past

982
00:34:24,869 --> 00:34:23,440
as as i've already told you today i'm

983
00:34:26,710 --> 00:34:24,879
very loosey-goosey

984
00:34:27,990 --> 00:34:26,720
uh the most what i've ever done with

985
00:34:30,069 --> 00:34:28,000
buttons in terms of

986
00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:30,079
uh organizing things by writing things

987
00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:31,760
down was he would do a

988
00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:34,960
pie graph and his book and he would go

989
00:34:38,069 --> 00:34:36,000
right so we've got

990
00:34:39,589 --> 00:34:38,079
80 percent of the show we'll do this

991
00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:39,599
then we'll do this and then

992
00:34:43,190 --> 00:34:42,000
the the the only other stuff we we

993
00:34:47,030 --> 00:34:43,200
really concentrated on

994
00:34:49,909 --> 00:34:47,040
was um recording uh funny stings

995
00:34:51,750 --> 00:34:49,919
to to cut in between the segments um so

996
00:34:52,629 --> 00:34:51,760
i wanted to maintain that we did that in

997
00:34:55,190 --> 00:34:52,639
the show

998
00:34:56,790 --> 00:34:55,200
and uh ethan's good with uh music and

999
00:34:59,910 --> 00:34:56,800
has some friends that can

1000
00:35:01,750 --> 00:34:59,920
uh do bit of uh have got some gnarly

1001
00:35:03,270 --> 00:35:01,760
keyboard skills so we thought we could

1002
00:35:05,910 --> 00:35:03,280
throw a bit of that in there

1003
00:35:06,550 --> 00:35:05,920
and really the the difficult thing was

1004
00:35:09,829 --> 00:35:06,560
to

1005
00:35:10,390 --> 00:35:09,839
make a podcast that has comedy uh is

1006
00:35:12,550 --> 00:35:10,400
silly

1007
00:35:13,990 --> 00:35:12,560
but also deals with a subject matter

1008
00:35:17,829 --> 00:35:14,000
that is important

1009
00:35:20,150 --> 00:35:17,839
that that but regardless some people

1010
00:35:21,030 --> 00:35:20,160
still think is kooky and and and you

1011
00:35:23,670 --> 00:35:21,040
know and

1012
00:35:24,550 --> 00:35:23,680
and ridiculous uh and yet i wanted to

1013
00:35:27,750 --> 00:35:24,560
pull in

1014
00:35:29,430 --> 00:35:27,760
my my audience and also um

1015
00:35:31,349 --> 00:35:29,440
through comedy and get them to open

1016
00:35:33,030 --> 00:35:31,359
their mind up and also believe

1017
00:35:34,630 --> 00:35:33,040
that there is stuff out there that is

1018
00:35:36,630 --> 00:35:34,640
happening and

1019
00:35:38,550 --> 00:35:36,640
uh it just so happened that you know in

1020
00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:38,560
the last few years

1021
00:35:41,990 --> 00:35:41,280
uh the world was transitioning from it

1022
00:35:43,510 --> 00:35:42,000
being

1023
00:35:46,230 --> 00:35:43,520
a subject that people didn't really

1024
00:35:48,390 --> 00:35:46,240
bother to take seriously to now

1025
00:35:50,069 --> 00:35:48,400
uh thanks to all the you know the major

1026
00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:50,079
news articles and the proof that's

1027
00:35:54,470 --> 00:35:52,320
coming out about the existence of ufos

1028
00:35:55,829 --> 00:35:54,480
to be something that is real and that we

1029
00:35:59,510 --> 00:35:55,839
actually do have to go

1030
00:36:02,710 --> 00:35:59,520
oh okay uh oh oh oh heck

1031
00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:06,150
yeah yeah so so kind of uh yeah exactly

1032
00:36:09,430 --> 00:36:08,640
so um so it was good timing on all those

1033
00:36:11,589 --> 00:36:09,440
on all those

1034
00:36:13,349 --> 00:36:11,599
uh with all those elements and but the

1035
00:36:15,430 --> 00:36:13,359
other important thing that what i

1036
00:36:16,550 --> 00:36:15,440
and which i will be forever thankful for

1037
00:36:19,510 --> 00:36:16,560
spotify for

1038
00:36:19,910 --> 00:36:19,520
for ensuring is that we you know we got

1039
00:36:23,670 --> 00:36:19,920
some

1040
00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:23,680
of the top

1041
00:36:28,069 --> 00:36:26,800
people in the field to uh who

1042
00:36:30,470 --> 00:36:28,079
by the way you know have a sense of

1043
00:36:31,430 --> 00:36:30,480
humor and who are who may know me they

1044
00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:31,440
didn't all know

1045
00:36:37,670 --> 00:36:34,800
of of my what i'm what i've been up to

1046
00:36:37,910 --> 00:36:37,680
uh but a lot of them you know were fans

1047
00:36:40,870 --> 00:36:37,920
of

1048
00:36:41,430 --> 00:36:40,880
a certain degree and they were willing

1049
00:36:45,430 --> 00:36:41,440
to

1050
00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:45,440
stuff

1051
00:36:48,550 --> 00:36:47,200
um and so that that's how the show came

1052
00:36:50,710 --> 00:36:48,560
into being

1053
00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:50,720
yeah and i mean that that's a really

1054
00:36:55,109 --> 00:36:52,000
good thing to bring up

1055
00:36:55,589 --> 00:36:55,119
reese is um that balance i think uh you

1056
00:36:57,349 --> 00:36:55,599
know

1057
00:36:59,990 --> 00:36:57,359
at the end of the day we're talking

1058
00:37:01,829 --> 00:37:00,000
about the weirdest [\h__\h] in the world

1059
00:37:04,790 --> 00:37:01,839
like if you can't have fun with that

1060
00:37:06,150 --> 00:37:04,800
yeah what's the point i mean i'm and i

1061
00:37:07,829 --> 00:37:06,160
know i'm uh

1062
00:37:09,910 --> 00:37:07,839
i'm drawing back to my own personal

1063
00:37:12,630 --> 00:37:09,920
experiences but i did a um

1064
00:37:15,670 --> 00:37:12,640
a panel discussion with um kumal

1065
00:37:18,550 --> 00:37:15,680
nanjiani who was in your episode

1066
00:37:19,349 --> 00:37:18,560
um out in l.a i did a panel with him all

1067
00:37:21,430 --> 00:37:19,359
about

1068
00:37:22,950 --> 00:37:21,440
ufos and i'm going in thinking like this

1069
00:37:24,630 --> 00:37:22,960
is they're going to be bashing me the

1070
00:37:25,270 --> 00:37:24,640
whole time like this is just going to be

1071
00:37:28,550 --> 00:37:25,280
like

1072
00:37:31,190 --> 00:37:28,560
do it and

1073
00:37:32,950 --> 00:37:31,200
dude i mean i got there and they could

1074
00:37:33,430 --> 00:37:32,960
not have been more serious about it

1075
00:37:36,710 --> 00:37:33,440
which

1076
00:37:38,710 --> 00:37:36,720
i super appreciate it you know that um

1077
00:37:41,670 --> 00:37:38,720
like you said this is a topic that

1078
00:37:42,630 --> 00:37:41,680
deserves a legitimate study and it now

1079
00:37:44,390 --> 00:37:42,640
is by the

1080
00:37:46,630 --> 00:37:44,400
government and governments around the

1081
00:37:48,390 --> 00:37:46,640
world but at the same time like come on

1082
00:37:50,150 --> 00:37:48,400
when you're talking to and i do want to

1083
00:37:50,710 --> 00:37:50,160
ask you about the contact email box in a

1084
00:37:54,150 --> 00:37:50,720
minute

1085
00:37:56,390 --> 00:37:54,160
but um we're dealing with some crazy ass

1086
00:37:58,230 --> 00:37:56,400
stuff and if you can't laugh about it

1087
00:37:59,750 --> 00:37:58,240
um what's the point and a lot of these

1088
00:38:02,710 --> 00:37:59,760
experiencers they

1089
00:38:03,270 --> 00:38:02,720
fully recognize how crazy their stories

1090
00:38:05,190 --> 00:38:03,280
sound

1091
00:38:07,430 --> 00:38:05,200
you know so i think that's a big part of

1092
00:38:09,349 --> 00:38:07,440
it too it helps if they have a sense of

1093
00:38:12,230 --> 00:38:09,359
humor because if you

1094
00:38:13,990 --> 00:38:12,240
so it's got it got a few um bad

1095
00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:14,000
reputations in the past from people

1096
00:38:18,630 --> 00:38:16,320
being so super serious about it

1097
00:38:19,910 --> 00:38:18,640
and that they're yet they're talking

1098
00:38:23,109 --> 00:38:19,920
about things that are

1099
00:38:26,390 --> 00:38:23,119
uh are so weird that it

1100
00:38:28,150 --> 00:38:26,400
almost became a little inhuman not to uh

1101
00:38:29,990 --> 00:38:28,160
question yourself and have a little joke

1102
00:38:31,510 --> 00:38:30,000
about the fact that i saw this crazy

1103
00:38:35,030 --> 00:38:31,520
thing and it didn't make any sense

1104
00:38:38,069 --> 00:38:35,040
um and so i i feel uh

1105
00:38:39,750 --> 00:38:38,079
as an aside that humor in general

1106
00:38:41,589 --> 00:38:39,760
um connects us together and i've

1107
00:38:42,150 --> 00:38:41,599
traveled around the world and done gigs

1108
00:38:43,589 --> 00:38:42,160
and been

1109
00:38:45,030 --> 00:38:43,599
in countries where i cannot speak the

1110
00:38:46,470 --> 00:38:45,040
language and that's pretty much all of

1111
00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:46,480
them that don't speak english

1112
00:38:53,670 --> 00:38:49,680
um and yet i've been able to um

1113
00:38:56,310 --> 00:38:53,680
connect through humor and so that

1114
00:38:57,990 --> 00:38:56,320
that's really it's really important

1115
00:39:00,310 --> 00:38:58,000
absolutely i think that

1116
00:39:02,310 --> 00:39:00,320
humor and comedy brings us closer

1117
00:39:04,310 --> 00:39:02,320
together than pretty much anything

1118
00:39:05,510 --> 00:39:04,320
in the world um and these profound

1119
00:39:08,390 --> 00:39:05,520
questions we ask

1120
00:39:10,150 --> 00:39:08,400
with ufos too so um i want to talk about

1121
00:39:10,790 --> 00:39:10,160
a couple of these guests you've had on

1122
00:39:12,550 --> 00:39:10,800
now

1123
00:39:15,430 --> 00:39:12,560
this one really surprised me when i

1124
00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:15,440
first heard the episode uh paco chirichi

1125
00:39:18,950 --> 00:39:18,640
the first guy to go public about the tic

1126
00:39:21,190 --> 00:39:18,960
tac

1127
00:39:22,390 --> 00:39:21,200
ufo event like how did you get this

1128
00:39:23,990 --> 00:39:22,400
interview and um

1129
00:39:25,510 --> 00:39:24,000
what did you make of his story it's

1130
00:39:27,990 --> 00:39:25,520
incredible

1131
00:39:29,109 --> 00:39:28,000
well he was he was super cool uh you

1132
00:39:32,710 --> 00:39:29,119
know he was a

1133
00:39:36,150 --> 00:39:32,720
us navy fighter pilot um x i believe

1134
00:39:39,190 --> 00:39:36,160
uh but he was willing to come in he

1135
00:39:40,470 --> 00:39:39,200
had a book he was uh promoting as well

1136
00:39:43,750 --> 00:39:40,480
which always helps

1137
00:39:45,670 --> 00:39:43,760
and then it comes down to that's another

1138
00:39:47,829 --> 00:39:45,680
good thing about being attached to

1139
00:39:49,750 --> 00:39:47,839
spotify was that you've got people in

1140
00:39:52,470 --> 00:39:49,760
the uh in the admin realm

1141
00:39:54,069 --> 00:39:52,480
who are pulling strings for you and

1142
00:39:54,950 --> 00:39:54,079
organizing things which is something

1143
00:39:57,589 --> 00:39:54,960
once again that

1144
00:39:59,270 --> 00:39:57,599
buttons and buttons and i especially me

1145
00:39:59,910 --> 00:39:59,280
uh it's not our it's not my area of

1146
00:40:01,910 --> 00:39:59,920
expertise

1147
00:40:03,589 --> 00:40:01,920
i'm not going to get on the phone to

1148
00:40:05,510 --> 00:40:03,599
people and go hey man can you get on my

1149
00:40:08,630 --> 00:40:05,520
show i mean i'm sure you do ryan

1150
00:40:09,910 --> 00:40:08,640
but uh you know it's not my i you know i

1151
00:40:11,030 --> 00:40:09,920
don't want to say i've got people to do

1152
00:40:12,470 --> 00:40:11,040
that for me but

1153
00:40:14,550 --> 00:40:12,480
you know i've got people to do that for

1154
00:40:18,550 --> 00:40:14,560
me so

1155
00:40:20,870 --> 00:40:18,560
we got him um and it's really there's

1156
00:40:21,990 --> 00:40:20,880
nothing beats the horse's mouth and when

1157
00:40:25,030 --> 00:40:22,000
you hear

1158
00:40:26,870 --> 00:40:25,040
uh someone who's first of all that as as

1159
00:40:29,750 --> 00:40:26,880
as boys on this podcast we're in all

1160
00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:29,760
with because the guy was a fighter pilot

1161
00:40:33,589 --> 00:40:31,920
uh he's flown tomcats and things like

1162
00:40:33,990 --> 00:40:33,599
that and by the way i told you at the

1163
00:40:36,309 --> 00:40:34,000
start

1164
00:40:38,150 --> 00:40:36,319
i was in the air training corps as a 12

1165
00:40:38,950 --> 00:40:38,160
year old my dream was to be a fighter

1166
00:40:40,870 --> 00:40:38,960
pilot

1167
00:40:41,990 --> 00:40:40,880
so i'm already sitting here fizzing

1168
00:40:44,470 --> 00:40:42,000
going wow you're

1169
00:40:46,069 --> 00:40:44,480
you're what i wanted to be i couldn't be

1170
00:40:48,950 --> 00:40:46,079
because i was no good at physics i'm an

1171
00:40:50,790 --> 00:40:48,960
idiot i i can't i can barely do maths

1172
00:40:52,150 --> 00:40:50,800
so why you have to be great at that kind

1173
00:40:53,990 --> 00:40:52,160
of stuff to be a fighter pilot i

1174
00:40:55,349 --> 00:40:54,000
i don't know but you know you do and i'm

1175
00:40:57,030 --> 00:40:55,359
glad you do because they're

1176
00:40:58,950 --> 00:40:57,040
these guys are super smart you know

1177
00:41:02,069 --> 00:40:58,960
they're not just they're not me

1178
00:41:02,470 --> 00:41:02,079
they're not uh they're not uh leaving

1179
00:41:04,950 --> 00:41:02,480
school

1180
00:41:06,069 --> 00:41:04,960
and jumping in a jet plane um and

1181
00:41:08,550 --> 00:41:06,079
traveling at those speeds

1182
00:41:09,270 --> 00:41:08,560
and and they have super lightning-fast

1183
00:41:11,430 --> 00:41:09,280
reactions

1184
00:41:13,270 --> 00:41:11,440
and their brains work really super fast

1185
00:41:16,950 --> 00:41:13,280
so i think

1186
00:41:19,589 --> 00:41:16,960
to and and uh us regulars can't

1187
00:41:20,069 --> 00:41:19,599
quite even fathom that that just pilots

1188
00:41:22,309 --> 00:41:20,079
in general

1189
00:41:23,910 --> 00:41:22,319
uh have got to be really on to it but

1190
00:41:25,030 --> 00:41:23,920
these ones that fire these supersonic

1191
00:41:27,030 --> 00:41:25,040
things up in the sky

1192
00:41:28,309 --> 00:41:27,040
and they when when they see these things

1193
00:41:29,109 --> 00:41:28,319
and they talk about these things that

1194
00:41:30,550 --> 00:41:29,119
they see

1195
00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:30,560
you know they're not making that up and

1196
00:41:34,950 --> 00:41:32,400
so we

1197
00:41:36,069 --> 00:41:34,960
we have to respect that and i i know i

1198
00:41:38,390 --> 00:41:36,079
respected

1199
00:41:40,470 --> 00:41:38,400
uh what he was saying and and the fact

1200
00:41:42,550 --> 00:41:40,480
that also being ex-military myself i

1201
00:41:45,430 --> 00:41:42,560
could connect with the idea that

1202
00:41:46,710 --> 00:41:45,440
uh it's it's definitely a bit of a boys

1203
00:41:48,550 --> 00:41:46,720
club and we like we rip

1204
00:41:50,710 --> 00:41:48,560
each other and uh you know there's

1205
00:41:52,710 --> 00:41:50,720
obviously it's it's men and women

1206
00:41:54,069 --> 00:41:52,720
but as in general and the women are the

1207
00:41:55,829 --> 00:41:54,079
same uh

1208
00:41:57,750 --> 00:41:55,839
they're they're tough we're tough tough

1209
00:42:00,309 --> 00:41:57,760
customers and we like to

1210
00:42:02,150 --> 00:42:00,319
um mock each other and stuff in the in

1211
00:42:04,309 --> 00:42:02,160
in the in the military and we

1212
00:42:06,710 --> 00:42:04,319
kind of uh there's this competitive

1213
00:42:08,950 --> 00:42:06,720
nature and so if you were to

1214
00:42:10,470 --> 00:42:08,960
say something like i i saw a ufo you

1215
00:42:12,309 --> 00:42:10,480
know people are gonna laugh and they're

1216
00:42:14,309 --> 00:42:12,319
gonna um

1217
00:42:15,990 --> 00:42:14,319
yeah there's there's that sort of it's

1218
00:42:19,510 --> 00:42:16,000
they're they're tough characters

1219
00:42:23,030 --> 00:42:19,520
and so for that to then become uh

1220
00:42:25,510 --> 00:42:23,040
truth and to be an accepted truth uh

1221
00:42:26,390 --> 00:42:25,520
in that institution to begin with is is

1222
00:42:30,390 --> 00:42:26,400
a real

1223
00:42:31,109 --> 00:42:30,400
solid um advancement yeah yeah

1224
00:42:34,150 --> 00:42:31,119
absolutely

1225
00:42:35,190 --> 00:42:34,160
i think the the we have to stress that

1226
00:42:37,030 --> 00:42:35,200
point too that

1227
00:42:40,150 --> 00:42:37,040
these are trained observers and like you

1228
00:42:41,829 --> 00:42:40,160
said um that ridicule factor has been in

1229
00:42:43,349 --> 00:42:41,839
the military for a long time you don't

1230
00:42:44,230 --> 00:42:43,359
report these things same with commercial

1231
00:42:46,950 --> 00:42:44,240
pilots

1232
00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:46,960
i mean i go back to you know the um the

1233
00:42:51,270 --> 00:42:49,680
the japan airlines case where the pilot

1234
00:42:53,030 --> 00:42:51,280
reported the ufo when he got to the

1235
00:42:54,630 --> 00:42:53,040
ground and then he was put on desk duty

1236
00:42:56,710 --> 00:42:54,640
for the rest of his career

1237
00:42:59,030 --> 00:42:56,720
like that's so sad man he reports one

1238
00:42:59,829 --> 00:42:59,040
ufo they think he's nuts and he never

1239
00:43:03,109 --> 00:42:59,839
flies again

1240
00:43:06,150 --> 00:43:03,119
so i mean i i totally get why i

1241
00:43:07,510 --> 00:43:06,160
a top gun pilot would not report a ufo

1242
00:43:08,950 --> 00:43:07,520
because like you said

1243
00:43:11,430 --> 00:43:08,960
all the other pilots are going to be

1244
00:43:13,270 --> 00:43:11,440
like oh wow you couldn't out maneuver

1245
00:43:13,670 --> 00:43:13,280
that or you couldn't think quick enough

1246
00:43:16,230 --> 00:43:13,680
or

1247
00:43:17,270 --> 00:43:16,240
you're totally it was a glare in your

1248
00:43:19,510 --> 00:43:17,280
you know

1249
00:43:21,190 --> 00:43:19,520
yeah the dome of your plane like at

1250
00:43:23,510 --> 00:43:21,200
worst you're looking for attention

1251
00:43:25,670 --> 00:43:23,520
uh right right you know what i mean uh

1252
00:43:26,950 --> 00:43:25,680
yeah in fact you know what i just had an

1253
00:43:28,390 --> 00:43:26,960
idea there i would love for this to

1254
00:43:29,829 --> 00:43:28,400
happen i don't think it will but you

1255
00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:29,839
know the new top gun that's

1256
00:43:33,190 --> 00:43:31,920
that's coming out which i think i'm

1257
00:43:35,109 --> 00:43:33,200
excited about

1258
00:43:36,630 --> 00:43:35,119
um wouldn't it be great if there was a

1259
00:43:39,190 --> 00:43:36,640
uap in there

1260
00:43:40,550 --> 00:43:39,200
uh that maverick catches out the corner

1261
00:43:42,230 --> 00:43:40,560
of his eye or something or there's a

1262
00:43:45,030 --> 00:43:42,240
there's a tic tac

1263
00:43:46,790 --> 00:43:45,040
amazing reference i hope i don't think

1264
00:43:50,309 --> 00:43:46,800
they will do it but that would be great

1265
00:43:53,030 --> 00:43:50,319
i remember i think it was um my english

1266
00:43:55,349 --> 00:43:53,040
class in like middle school where i

1267
00:43:57,589 --> 00:43:55,359
wrote a sequel to top gun

1268
00:43:59,190 --> 00:43:57,599
and it was like it was maverick going to

1269
00:44:01,030 --> 00:43:59,200
hunt down saddam hussein

1270
00:44:03,190 --> 00:44:01,040
in a uh what do you call this the

1271
00:44:04,790 --> 00:44:03,200
stealth fighter oh yeah

1272
00:44:06,470 --> 00:44:04,800
so when i saw that this new one was

1273
00:44:06,950 --> 00:44:06,480
coming out i'm like oh there goes my

1274
00:44:08,710 --> 00:44:06,960
plan

1275
00:44:10,150 --> 00:44:08,720
of writing well you don't know that

1276
00:44:11,349 --> 00:44:10,160
could be the plot you could have

1277
00:44:13,270 --> 00:44:11,359
i hope you didn't leave that script

1278
00:44:14,790 --> 00:44:13,280
lying anywhere i know my teacher

1279
00:44:16,309 --> 00:44:14,800
probably gave it to man but hey no

1280
00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:16,319
that's a good point i mean

1281
00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:20,400
um you know the fact that

1282
00:44:24,069 --> 00:44:22,800
that this could be making its way more

1283
00:44:25,829 --> 00:44:24,079
into the mainstream i mean

1284
00:44:27,910 --> 00:44:25,839
every time i turn on the tv someone's

1285
00:44:28,470 --> 00:44:27,920
talking about like the tic tac ufo or

1286
00:44:30,790 --> 00:44:28,480
this

1287
00:44:32,470 --> 00:44:30,800
or that and um it's not a world i ever

1288
00:44:34,230 --> 00:44:32,480
thought we'd live in where

1289
00:44:36,150 --> 00:44:34,240
you know the us government would be

1290
00:44:36,630 --> 00:44:36,160
seriously investigating this which we'll

1291
00:44:39,829 --> 00:44:36,640
get to

1292
00:44:43,270 --> 00:44:39,839
but um the the next guest i want to

1293
00:44:43,750 --> 00:44:43,280
talk to you about is um okay so this

1294
00:44:47,750 --> 00:44:43,760
book

1295
00:44:50,230 --> 00:44:47,760
my memory

1296
00:44:51,190 --> 00:44:50,240
terrified me as a kid and uh that's

1297
00:44:53,430 --> 00:44:51,200
communion

1298
00:44:54,550 --> 00:44:53,440
so i gotta ask you what was it like

1299
00:44:58,150 --> 00:44:54,560
interviewing

1300
00:45:00,150 --> 00:44:58,160
probably the most famous ufo

1301
00:45:01,270 --> 00:45:00,160
alien abductee of all time whitley

1302
00:45:02,790 --> 00:45:01,280
strieber and uh

1303
00:45:04,950 --> 00:45:02,800
what do you make of his whole story i

1304
00:45:05,589 --> 00:45:04,960
mean it's it continues even up until

1305
00:45:07,990 --> 00:45:05,599
this day

1306
00:45:09,990 --> 00:45:08,000
so yeah what do you think it was it was

1307
00:45:13,510 --> 00:45:10,000
fascinating uh so that one

1308
00:45:17,589 --> 00:45:13,520
was hands-on buttons and i in um

1309
00:45:19,190 --> 00:45:17,599
contact in the desert in a small room uh

1310
00:45:21,270 --> 00:45:19,200
you know actually sitting right at the

1311
00:45:24,470 --> 00:45:21,280
table with whitley

1312
00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:24,480
and he you know as you as you know from

1313
00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:26,560
the interview we got to feel

1314
00:45:30,390 --> 00:45:28,800
the back of his ear where this bump was

1315
00:45:32,470 --> 00:45:30,400
where he had this implant which

1316
00:45:34,550 --> 00:45:32,480
i believe is yeah like it's still in

1317
00:45:37,670 --> 00:45:34,560
there and he freaked us out with

1318
00:45:41,349 --> 00:45:37,680
the the the point of where it moved and

1319
00:45:44,870 --> 00:45:41,359
what i found fascinating with his story

1320
00:45:46,230 --> 00:45:44,880
was that he he was not saying that they

1321
00:45:48,230 --> 00:45:46,240
were

1322
00:45:49,829 --> 00:45:48,240
aliens in a sense that they he didn't

1323
00:45:53,750 --> 00:45:49,839
know what they were

1324
00:45:56,870 --> 00:45:53,760
um but that he

1325
00:45:58,870 --> 00:45:56,880
that that it was ongoing and that

1326
00:46:00,630 --> 00:45:58,880
there's that whole point of and people

1327
00:46:03,910 --> 00:46:00,640
will argue against this with the

1328
00:46:06,470 --> 00:46:03,920
the will of wanting it to happen um

1329
00:46:07,829 --> 00:46:06,480
his uh wife had passed away if i

1330
00:46:10,870 --> 00:46:07,839
remember correctly

1331
00:46:12,390 --> 00:46:10,880
uh and then the idea that he'd written

1332
00:46:13,910 --> 00:46:12,400
science fiction books up until that

1333
00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:13,920
point and so you've got that thing

1334
00:46:16,150 --> 00:46:14,480
whereby

1335
00:46:17,990 --> 00:46:16,160
people are like oh come on he's this is

1336
00:46:21,510 --> 00:46:18,000
just the next level of his

1337
00:46:23,030 --> 00:46:21,520
uh imagination um but

1338
00:46:24,309 --> 00:46:23,040
so that's in the that plays in the back

1339
00:46:24,710 --> 00:46:24,319
of your mind when you're talking to the

1340
00:46:27,829 --> 00:46:24,720
guy

1341
00:46:29,910 --> 00:46:27,839
but i've spoken to a lot of people as

1342
00:46:31,910 --> 00:46:29,920
you have as well and there's nothing

1343
00:46:34,150 --> 00:46:31,920
better than actually being

1344
00:46:35,990 --> 00:46:34,160
face to face over the phone you know you

1345
00:46:37,270 --> 00:46:36,000
can't tell but when you're there and i

1346
00:46:39,109 --> 00:46:37,280
read people for a

1347
00:46:41,190 --> 00:46:39,119
for a living as a comic because i'm on

1348
00:46:42,069 --> 00:46:41,200
stage and i have to read audiences and i

1349
00:46:43,750 --> 00:46:42,079
have to

1350
00:46:45,190 --> 00:46:43,760
fathom how they're feeling and whether

1351
00:46:46,710 --> 00:46:45,200
my stuff's gonna come across

1352
00:46:49,109 --> 00:46:46,720
and when the room is different when

1353
00:46:51,430 --> 00:46:49,119
there's uh there's too many drunks

1354
00:46:52,950 --> 00:46:51,440
or when there's uh the lights aren't

1355
00:46:53,829 --> 00:46:52,960
good enough and the mic's not quite

1356
00:46:56,870 --> 00:46:53,839
right i have to

1357
00:46:59,670 --> 00:46:56,880
adjust my performance and and i have to

1358
00:47:01,109 --> 00:46:59,680
be able to and i take a little bit of

1359
00:47:01,910 --> 00:47:01,119
pride in the fact that i'm a good judge

1360
00:47:03,430 --> 00:47:01,920
of character and

1361
00:47:05,109 --> 00:47:03,440
in terms of that i think you know i

1362
00:47:06,710 --> 00:47:05,119
think performers have to be in

1363
00:47:07,829 --> 00:47:06,720
a way because otherwise you misjudge

1364
00:47:08,790 --> 00:47:07,839
what you're doing and you you know

1365
00:47:11,190 --> 00:47:08,800
you're going to bomb

1366
00:47:12,710 --> 00:47:11,200
or you've got you know you you're you're

1367
00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:12,720
you know that that is that essentially

1368
00:47:17,510 --> 00:47:14,400
is my job is to

1369
00:47:19,670 --> 00:47:17,520
is to uh is to be is to be great and to

1370
00:47:20,230 --> 00:47:19,680
be able to do that as an entertainer i

1371
00:47:24,150 --> 00:47:20,240
have to

1372
00:47:26,390 --> 00:47:24,160
here reading this guy

1373
00:47:27,670 --> 00:47:26,400
and uh you know it's it's um it's

1374
00:47:30,390 --> 00:47:27,680
genuine to me

1375
00:47:32,309 --> 00:47:30,400
and buttons is always he's full of joy

1376
00:47:33,030 --> 00:47:32,319
and very we're both a couple of kind of

1377
00:47:39,430 --> 00:47:33,040
young

1378
00:47:40,710 --> 00:47:39,440
which i think is a very healthy thing uh

1379
00:47:44,150 --> 00:47:40,720
you know always

1380
00:47:47,349 --> 00:47:44,160
open open for uh fantastic

1381
00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:47,359
tales want to be astonished but

1382
00:47:50,950 --> 00:47:50,000
uh we're not so loopy that we're not

1383
00:47:53,270 --> 00:47:50,960
grounded

1384
00:47:54,230 --> 00:47:53,280
um you know buttons is the ceo of a huge

1385
00:47:57,910 --> 00:47:54,240
company

1386
00:48:01,510 --> 00:47:57,920
and you know um well you know what i do

1387
00:48:02,630 --> 00:48:01,520
uh i'm an actor i'm a comedian so that's

1388
00:48:07,190 --> 00:48:02,640
not very grounding

1389
00:48:10,710 --> 00:48:07,200
but um i yeah so i i really

1390
00:48:14,150 --> 00:48:10,720
i believed what he was saying and um

1391
00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:14,160
and it was it was spooky and

1392
00:48:18,470 --> 00:48:17,440
by the way communion yeah the book and

1393
00:48:21,829 --> 00:48:18,480
the movie

1394
00:48:23,670 --> 00:48:21,839
really uh really

1395
00:48:24,870 --> 00:48:23,680
really spooky stuff like that kind of

1396
00:48:26,870 --> 00:48:24,880
stuff uh

1397
00:48:28,549 --> 00:48:26,880
it gets you uh the hairs on the back

1398
00:48:30,390 --> 00:48:28,559
your neck standing up because there's a

1399
00:48:33,270 --> 00:48:30,400
sense of evilness to it

1400
00:48:34,150 --> 00:48:33,280
and that that's the worry and we don't

1401
00:48:37,990 --> 00:48:34,160
want that but

1402
00:48:41,349 --> 00:48:38,000
that is part of alien law is that

1403
00:48:45,190 --> 00:48:41,359
you know we're not sure how much of it

1404
00:48:48,950 --> 00:48:45,200
uh first of all is true but secondly

1405
00:48:51,670 --> 00:48:48,960
uh if it is um

1406
00:48:52,790 --> 00:48:51,680
how much of it is uh his bad intent and

1407
00:48:54,870 --> 00:48:52,800
whether and whether

1408
00:48:57,030 --> 00:48:54,880
what they're actually doing to us and

1409
00:48:58,790 --> 00:48:57,040
manipulating us in certain ways and so

1410
00:49:00,150 --> 00:48:58,800
all of that was coming into play when we

1411
00:49:02,950 --> 00:49:00,160
spoke to this guy

1412
00:49:04,870 --> 00:49:02,960
um and feeling feeling the thing behind

1413
00:49:07,430 --> 00:49:04,880
his ear dude it was like

1414
00:49:09,430 --> 00:49:07,440
uh next level i've done some pretty cool

1415
00:49:11,589 --> 00:49:09,440
things in my life but that was one of

1416
00:49:14,150 --> 00:49:11,599
feeling someone's implant i mean i i

1417
00:49:16,230 --> 00:49:14,160
highly recommend it

1418
00:49:19,430 --> 00:49:16,240
like i said i gave it a little tickle

1419
00:49:21,829 --> 00:49:19,440
yeah yeah you had to see how it reacts

1420
00:49:22,470 --> 00:49:21,839
i i completely agree with you you know

1421
00:49:25,349 --> 00:49:22,480
for the

1422
00:49:27,349 --> 00:49:25,359
book i interviewed hundreds of people

1423
00:49:28,309 --> 00:49:27,359
and maybe there's like 40 in there i

1424
00:49:31,270 --> 00:49:28,319
don't know how many

1425
00:49:32,790 --> 00:49:31,280
but um there's nothing like being face

1426
00:49:33,829 --> 00:49:32,800
to face with these people and like you

1427
00:49:35,270 --> 00:49:33,839
said

1428
00:49:37,349 --> 00:49:35,280
i always get asked the question well do

1429
00:49:38,069 --> 00:49:37,359
you believe everyone that you write

1430
00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:38,079
about

1431
00:49:44,150 --> 00:49:41,520
and my i guess safe answer is i believe

1432
00:49:45,670 --> 00:49:44,160
these people believe what happened yeah

1433
00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:45,680
you know and some might find that

1434
00:49:48,950 --> 00:49:47,520
passive but at the end of the day like

1435
00:49:50,710 --> 00:49:48,960
i wasn't there i wasn't there when

1436
00:49:52,390 --> 00:49:50,720
whitley streeper had these experiences

1437
00:49:55,190 --> 00:49:52,400
i can't say if that happened or not but

1438
00:49:57,670 --> 00:49:55,200
look i mean these are

1439
00:49:58,390 --> 00:49:57,680
supposedly mentally stable individuals

1440
00:49:59,750 --> 00:49:58,400
as

1441
00:50:01,990 --> 00:49:59,760
you know someone like john mack the

1442
00:50:05,430 --> 00:50:02,000
harvard psychiatrist who looked into

1443
00:50:07,270 --> 00:50:05,440
alien abductions he he did a huge study

1444
00:50:10,069 --> 00:50:07,280
and he said these people were not

1445
00:50:10,470 --> 00:50:10,079
you know this wasn't abuse as a child

1446
00:50:13,270 --> 00:50:10,480
this

1447
00:50:14,790 --> 00:50:13,280
is not a individual like these are

1448
00:50:17,270 --> 00:50:14,800
stable individuals

1449
00:50:19,190 --> 00:50:17,280
um who have never had an interest in

1450
00:50:21,270 --> 00:50:19,200
ufos or aliens or any of that

1451
00:50:22,309 --> 00:50:21,280
and they're reporting these things so i

1452
00:50:24,390 --> 00:50:22,319
have to agree with you

1453
00:50:25,990 --> 00:50:24,400
yeah like judgment of character is a big

1454
00:50:28,390 --> 00:50:26,000
thing the other thing i'll say

1455
00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:28,400
is that you know nobody wants to be

1456
00:50:31,270 --> 00:50:29,200
ridiculed

1457
00:50:33,589 --> 00:50:31,280
you don't set yourself up in life to go

1458
00:50:36,630 --> 00:50:33,599
i can't wait to get ridiculed from this

1459
00:50:38,150 --> 00:50:36,640
um so and it's not about selling books

1460
00:50:38,950 --> 00:50:38,160
because yeah yeah he's already a

1461
00:50:41,829 --> 00:50:38,960
successful

1462
00:50:43,030 --> 00:50:41,839
bookseller and you're not going to uh

1463
00:50:43,510 --> 00:50:43,040
you know there are other things you can

1464
00:50:46,069 --> 00:50:43,520
do

1465
00:50:47,670 --> 00:50:46,079
putting yourself out there to have

1466
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:47,680
people poke fun of you

1467
00:50:50,790 --> 00:50:50,160
uh and i've been with i'm i've been

1468
00:50:53,430 --> 00:50:50,800
ridiculed

1469
00:50:54,390 --> 00:50:53,440
many times as a as at school as a you

1470
00:50:56,230 --> 00:50:54,400
know a

1471
00:50:57,750 --> 00:50:56,240
little bit of bullying or you know i was

1472
00:51:01,190 --> 00:50:57,760
the class clown

1473
00:51:03,750 --> 00:51:01,200
but um i've been made fun of and

1474
00:51:04,710 --> 00:51:03,760
it's it's not fun you don't want to set

1475
00:51:06,630 --> 00:51:04,720
yourself up for that

1476
00:51:07,990 --> 00:51:06,640
um but when there's something inside of

1477
00:51:10,950 --> 00:51:08,000
you that is that is true

1478
00:51:11,829 --> 00:51:10,960
that is um burning inside of you that

1479
00:51:13,910 --> 00:51:11,839
you need to get out

1480
00:51:15,190 --> 00:51:13,920
that and and you're helping other people

1481
00:51:17,829 --> 00:51:15,200
who have experiences

1482
00:51:19,750 --> 00:51:17,839
as well then you know you've got to do

1483
00:51:21,270 --> 00:51:19,760
it and i take my head off to any one of

1484
00:51:24,630 --> 00:51:21,280
these experiences

1485
00:51:27,030 --> 00:51:24,640
uh contactees uh that have

1486
00:51:28,069 --> 00:51:27,040
uh that have gone on the table and and

1487
00:51:31,109 --> 00:51:28,079
have

1488
00:51:32,790 --> 00:51:31,119
spoken about their experience that's a

1489
00:51:34,829 --> 00:51:32,800
that's an outstanding thing to do and

1490
00:51:37,510 --> 00:51:34,839
and you've got to

1491
00:51:40,950 --> 00:51:37,520
um you've got to

1492
00:51:41,829 --> 00:51:40,960
respect that yeah yeah i the first thing

1493
00:51:44,790 --> 00:51:41,839
i learned

1494
00:51:47,430 --> 00:51:44,800
when i got into this this crazy world is

1495
00:51:49,750 --> 00:51:47,440
uh of ufos is uh to have empathy

1496
00:51:50,470 --> 00:51:49,760
for sure like you don't know this

1497
00:51:53,670 --> 00:51:50,480
person's

1498
00:51:55,349 --> 00:51:53,680
life you don't know their history um you

1499
00:51:56,710 --> 00:51:55,359
can't come in with these preconceived

1500
00:51:58,470 --> 00:51:56,720
notions because

1501
00:52:00,630 --> 00:51:58,480
like you said you know just being face

1502
00:52:02,950 --> 00:52:00,640
to face changes everything i remember

1503
00:52:04,870 --> 00:52:02,960
you know watching a woman break down in

1504
00:52:07,829 --> 00:52:04,880
tears with her husband

1505
00:52:09,510 --> 00:52:07,839
when she was retelling me her story of a

1506
00:52:10,069 --> 00:52:09,520
quote-unquote abduction experience and

1507
00:52:12,790 --> 00:52:10,079
i'm like

1508
00:52:15,349 --> 00:52:12,800
i'm sitting there like man like what the

1509
00:52:17,270 --> 00:52:15,359
hell am i doing i'm like sitting here

1510
00:52:18,950 --> 00:52:17,280
hoping i'm gonna hear a really cool

1511
00:52:22,150 --> 00:52:18,960
alien abduction story but

1512
00:52:22,630 --> 00:52:22,160
this event traumatized this woman wow

1513
00:52:24,710 --> 00:52:22,640
yeah that's

1514
00:52:25,990 --> 00:52:24,720
that's a good one because that yeah

1515
00:52:29,349 --> 00:52:26,000
opens it up for you and you

1516
00:52:32,630 --> 00:52:29,359
you realize oh that you know you know uh

1517
00:52:33,349 --> 00:52:32,640
it's not just for my and other people's

1518
00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:33,359
entertainment

1519
00:52:39,510 --> 00:52:36,720
this is fully affecting some people

1520
00:52:40,150 --> 00:52:39,520
and uh and so that you know it's it's

1521
00:52:41,829 --> 00:52:40,160
it's cool

1522
00:52:43,910 --> 00:52:41,839
to that end that i still managed to get

1523
00:52:47,430 --> 00:52:43,920
those contactee

1524
00:52:50,069 --> 00:52:47,440
uh mailboxes into what is essentially

1525
00:52:52,390 --> 00:52:50,079
uh a show that is has a lot of comedy in

1526
00:52:53,589 --> 00:52:52,400
it so that yeah the roller coaster-ness

1527
00:52:55,430 --> 00:52:53,599
uh-huh if that's a term the

1528
00:52:58,829 --> 00:52:55,440
rollercoaster-ness of

1529
00:53:01,430 --> 00:52:58,839
it is now of listening to that show

1530
00:53:03,109 --> 00:53:01,440
um yeah speaks volumes because you're

1531
00:53:06,230 --> 00:53:03,119
like you're shocked you're laughing

1532
00:53:09,109 --> 00:53:06,240
you're upset and then that's the credits

1533
00:53:10,630 --> 00:53:09,119
yeah right man good point i mean and it

1534
00:53:11,829 --> 00:53:10,640
is a whiplash you know which i

1535
00:53:13,589 --> 00:53:11,839
appreciate about

1536
00:53:15,910 --> 00:53:13,599
uh your show like you mentioned the the

1537
00:53:18,549 --> 00:53:15,920
contact email bag is where people can

1538
00:53:19,430 --> 00:53:18,559
uh submit their stories am i correct on

1539
00:53:21,430 --> 00:53:19,440
your show

1540
00:53:22,950 --> 00:53:21,440
yeah yeah so the interesting thing there

1541
00:53:26,870 --> 00:53:22,960
was my wife

1542
00:53:28,950 --> 00:53:26,880
dealt with all of those so um

1543
00:53:30,950 --> 00:53:28,960
and that was uh basically they left a

1544
00:53:34,630 --> 00:53:30,960
message i think she spoke to them

1545
00:53:35,430 --> 00:53:34,640
um but it was it was set aside from the

1546
00:53:38,230 --> 00:53:35,440
three of us

1547
00:53:38,950 --> 00:53:38,240
guys who were who are functioning as as

1548
00:53:41,270 --> 00:53:38,960
hosts

1549
00:53:42,790 --> 00:53:41,280
and we would then and grab it and so

1550
00:53:44,870 --> 00:53:42,800
what often when we

1551
00:53:47,030 --> 00:53:44,880
listened to the contact email box the

1552
00:53:50,390 --> 00:53:47,040
first time was when it was

1553
00:53:50,710 --> 00:53:50,400
put into the show and so that that made

1554
00:53:55,109 --> 00:53:50,720
it

1555
00:53:56,150 --> 00:53:55,119
can and i learned that from the cryptid

1556
00:53:58,470 --> 00:53:56,160
factor uh

1557
00:54:00,470 --> 00:53:58,480
is that if we can spook each other out

1558
00:54:01,190 --> 00:54:00,480
uh it's great because we're all like

1559
00:54:07,510 --> 00:54:01,200
we're

1560
00:54:09,430 --> 00:54:07,520
okay so sort of the last uh episode i

1561
00:54:12,870 --> 00:54:09,440
really want to cover with you reese of

1562
00:54:15,589 --> 00:54:12,880
your podcast is your interview with dr

1563
00:54:16,390 --> 00:54:15,599
michael masters now i know this is kind

1564
00:54:19,270 --> 00:54:16,400
of a running

1565
00:54:21,270 --> 00:54:19,280
uh a running gag in your show with your

1566
00:54:23,750 --> 00:54:21,280
co-host about um

1567
00:54:24,470 --> 00:54:23,760
about aliens being us from the future

1568
00:54:26,870 --> 00:54:24,480
and this is

1569
00:54:28,309 --> 00:54:26,880
this like this concept blew my mind when

1570
00:54:29,670 --> 00:54:28,319
i first heard about it i think one of

1571
00:54:31,829 --> 00:54:29,680
the dudes from the

1572
00:54:33,349 --> 00:54:31,839
the rendo show forest incident might

1573
00:54:35,750 --> 00:54:33,359
have talked about this but

1574
00:54:37,030 --> 00:54:35,760
what do you make of um what this doctors

1575
00:54:40,309 --> 00:54:37,040
brought forward that uh

1576
00:54:42,950 --> 00:54:40,319
aliens could be us in the future yeah

1577
00:54:43,589 --> 00:54:42,960
so this has really grown on me now when

1578
00:54:46,309 --> 00:54:43,599
i first

1579
00:54:47,910 --> 00:54:46,319
heard this and to be honest buttons was

1580
00:54:50,309 --> 00:54:47,920
the first one who

1581
00:54:51,990 --> 00:54:50,319
uh brought this theory to my attention

1582
00:54:54,710 --> 00:54:52,000
um a few years ago and i

1583
00:54:55,990 --> 00:54:54,720
always mock him uh we're best buddies so

1584
00:54:57,430 --> 00:54:56,000
we're laughing at each other and i'm

1585
00:54:58,630 --> 00:54:57,440
thinking yeah right it's us from the

1586
00:55:01,670 --> 00:54:58,640
future come on and

1587
00:55:03,510 --> 00:55:01,680
you know he he would say that uh

1588
00:55:05,109 --> 00:55:03,520
millions of years so we've evolved to

1589
00:55:05,589 --> 00:55:05,119
this point that's why we look the way we

1590
00:55:07,670 --> 00:55:05,599
do

1591
00:55:08,870 --> 00:55:07,680
and yeah there was some it was started

1592
00:55:12,470 --> 00:55:08,880
to uh

1593
00:55:15,670 --> 00:55:12,480
make sense in some in some ways but

1594
00:55:16,549 --> 00:55:15,680
the real issue i had with it was if time

1595
00:55:20,150 --> 00:55:16,559
travel

1596
00:55:22,470 --> 00:55:20,160
um became a thing then uh we

1597
00:55:23,510 --> 00:55:22,480
would have it now it's it's that whole

1598
00:55:25,990 --> 00:55:23,520
dichotomy of

1599
00:55:26,950 --> 00:55:26,000
you know when when does it happen and if

1600
00:55:28,710 --> 00:55:26,960
it does happen

1601
00:55:31,270 --> 00:55:28,720
then surely it's going to happen

1602
00:55:33,510 --> 00:55:31,280
constantly um look i'm no scientist

1603
00:55:35,109 --> 00:55:33,520
um i've watched back to the future a few

1604
00:55:39,190 --> 00:55:35,119
times but that's about my

1605
00:55:42,390 --> 00:55:39,200
that's about my experience uh in it now

1606
00:55:43,670 --> 00:55:42,400
um fast forward to uh dr michael p

1607
00:55:46,870 --> 00:55:43,680
masters

1608
00:55:47,670 --> 00:55:46,880
and he really has some good things to

1609
00:55:49,589 --> 00:55:47,680
say about it

1610
00:55:50,870 --> 00:55:49,599
he delivers a great interview he does

1611
00:55:54,630 --> 00:55:50,880
lectures on this

1612
00:55:57,190 --> 00:55:54,640
um buttons and him have been talking uh

1613
00:55:58,230 --> 00:55:57,200
many times uh they're both big fans of

1614
00:56:00,309 --> 00:55:58,240
the concept

1615
00:56:02,549 --> 00:56:00,319
and i've got to say you know they stay

1616
00:56:05,829 --> 00:56:02,559
swayed me towards it because

1617
00:56:07,750 --> 00:56:05,839
this this concept has been brought up uh

1618
00:56:09,670 --> 00:56:07,760
and and certainly in recent years and

1619
00:56:14,309 --> 00:56:09,680
it's becoming more and more

1620
00:56:20,470 --> 00:56:17,589
yeah i kind of i i don't want to i'm not

1621
00:56:22,150 --> 00:56:20,480
100 in on it but i'm kind of i'm swayed

1622
00:56:25,510 --> 00:56:22,160
towards it because let's be honest

1623
00:56:27,430 --> 00:56:25,520
uh we're running out of uh

1624
00:56:29,190 --> 00:56:27,440
of answers and we've been trying to

1625
00:56:32,549 --> 00:56:29,200
answer this

1626
00:56:35,109 --> 00:56:32,559
this big mystery um since since the

1627
00:56:36,630 --> 00:56:35,119
since the 40s and who knows even before

1628
00:56:38,549 --> 00:56:36,640
then when people didn't know what to

1629
00:56:41,750 --> 00:56:38,559
call these things whether they be called

1630
00:56:43,589 --> 00:56:41,760
uh angels or goblins or fairies

1631
00:56:45,270 --> 00:56:43,599
it's the other it's where they're coming

1632
00:56:49,430 --> 00:56:45,280
from and so

1633
00:56:56,789 --> 00:56:52,789
yeah i think um

1634
00:56:59,670 --> 00:56:56,799
i think it's uh it's got some

1635
00:57:01,190 --> 00:56:59,680
it's got some truth yeah yeah i'd have

1636
00:57:03,510 --> 00:57:01,200
to agree i mean again like

1637
00:57:04,230 --> 00:57:03,520
and who's to say we're dealing with one

1638
00:57:06,150 --> 00:57:04,240
thing

1639
00:57:07,670 --> 00:57:06,160
it could be interdimensional it could be

1640
00:57:09,829 --> 00:57:07,680
you know

1641
00:57:13,510 --> 00:57:09,839
yeah there isn't one there is not one

1642
00:57:16,230 --> 00:57:13,520
answer and i think my answer would be

1643
00:57:18,069 --> 00:57:16,240
is that there is so many different

1644
00:57:19,990 --> 00:57:18,079
concepts that could be

1645
00:57:21,349 --> 00:57:20,000
uh the answer and that there's

1646
00:57:23,670 --> 00:57:21,359
definitely more answers than one

1647
00:57:25,750 --> 00:57:23,680
and i was thinking today about the

1648
00:57:26,069 --> 00:57:25,760
things the the orbs the things that uh

1649
00:57:33,349 --> 00:57:26,079
the

1650
00:57:35,510 --> 00:57:33,359
um you know maybe because it's too far

1651
00:57:37,349 --> 00:57:35,520
away or there's a series of lights

1652
00:57:38,870 --> 00:57:37,359
there's got to be more than one answer

1653
00:57:40,150 --> 00:57:38,880
and and one of those one of those

1654
00:57:42,069 --> 00:57:40,160
answers uh

1655
00:57:43,270 --> 00:57:42,079
is it could be us from the future it

1656
00:57:44,390 --> 00:57:43,280
could be us traveling at different

1657
00:57:46,309 --> 00:57:44,400
timelines

1658
00:57:47,990 --> 00:57:46,319
interdimensional is a big one for me i'm

1659
00:57:49,430 --> 00:57:48,000
really a believer in that but i'm also a

1660
00:57:51,510 --> 00:57:49,440
believer in the fact that

1661
00:57:53,589 --> 00:57:51,520
some of these objects could just be

1662
00:57:55,430 --> 00:57:53,599
organic themselves they could be

1663
00:57:57,910 --> 00:57:55,440
spirits they could be that could be

1664
00:58:00,309 --> 00:57:57,920
returning from another dimension that

1665
00:58:00,950 --> 00:58:00,319
that it's not an actual physical object

1666
00:58:03,670 --> 00:58:00,960
it's just

1667
00:58:04,710 --> 00:58:03,680
it's an energy and it's watching you uh

1668
00:58:07,990 --> 00:58:04,720
the fact that

1669
00:58:10,069 --> 00:58:08,000
people have recurring experiences

1670
00:58:11,349 --> 00:58:10,079
that they see one and then a few months

1671
00:58:11,750 --> 00:58:11,359
later or years later they'll see one

1672
00:58:13,349 --> 00:58:11,760
again

1673
00:58:15,030 --> 00:58:13,359
or they'll see and it keeps following

1674
00:58:15,589 --> 00:58:15,040
them throughout their life means it

1675
00:58:17,430 --> 00:58:15,599
could be

1676
00:58:18,950 --> 00:58:17,440
connect it's got to be connected to that

1677
00:58:20,710 --> 00:58:18,960
person so it's got to be

1678
00:58:21,990 --> 00:58:20,720
maybe in the family line it's got to be

1679
00:58:24,710 --> 00:58:22,000
a spirit from another

1680
00:58:25,510 --> 00:58:24,720
dimension that is uh coming back and

1681
00:58:28,069 --> 00:58:25,520
messaging

1682
00:58:28,710 --> 00:58:28,079
you or keeping an eye on you so and you

1683
00:58:30,470 --> 00:58:28,720
talk about

1684
00:58:32,470 --> 00:58:30,480
so that the spiritual nature of that and

1685
00:58:33,910 --> 00:58:32,480
i like to say i'm not into ghosts

1686
00:58:36,069 --> 00:58:33,920
but it's got to be there's got to be a

1687
00:58:39,270 --> 00:58:36,079
connection there and and yet

1688
00:58:40,470 --> 00:58:39,280
that so that has a strong um uh kind of

1689
00:58:42,710 --> 00:58:40,480
weight behind it

1690
00:58:44,390 --> 00:58:42,720
and then you've got the metallic craft

1691
00:58:47,109 --> 00:58:44,400
which is a completely different

1692
00:58:47,670 --> 00:58:47,119
scenario but yet those things are real

1693
00:58:50,069 --> 00:58:47,680
as well

1694
00:58:51,510 --> 00:58:50,079
so and then and then you throw tic tacs

1695
00:58:53,190 --> 00:58:51,520
in the mix and you think what

1696
00:58:54,789 --> 00:58:53,200
what the hell is that shape what does

1697
00:58:56,309 --> 00:58:54,799
that signify is

1698
00:58:57,910 --> 00:58:56,319
and there can't be anything inside it

1699
00:58:59,510 --> 00:58:57,920
because well if there is it's certainly

1700
00:59:01,109 --> 00:58:59,520
not human at those

1701
00:59:03,589 --> 00:59:01,119
speeds and those velocities and what

1702
00:59:05,990 --> 00:59:03,599
they're doing so if there is is

1703
00:59:07,349 --> 00:59:06,000
had we have we advanced this far in the

1704
00:59:08,069 --> 00:59:07,359
millions and millions of years in the

1705
00:59:09,750 --> 00:59:08,079
future

1706
00:59:11,670 --> 00:59:09,760
that we can withstand that or is there

1707
00:59:13,589 --> 00:59:11,680
some sort of energy with inside the tic

1708
00:59:16,230 --> 00:59:13,599
tac that enables us not to feel it

1709
00:59:17,990 --> 00:59:16,240
but think about it we've already started

1710
00:59:19,670 --> 00:59:18,000
not flying in things

1711
00:59:22,390 --> 00:59:19,680
because we've got the drones we're now

1712
00:59:24,309 --> 00:59:22,400
going to have uh the next few battles

1713
00:59:26,150 --> 00:59:24,319
um are going to be drone versus drone

1714
00:59:28,069 --> 00:59:26,160
they did a dog fight recently with

1715
00:59:29,910 --> 00:59:28,079
i think it was the f-16 versus the the

1716
00:59:32,470 --> 00:59:29,920
drone f-16

1717
00:59:34,630 --> 00:59:32,480
and the and the drone kicked its ass so

1718
00:59:37,829 --> 00:59:34,640
that's now this 2020 where with that

1719
00:59:39,910 --> 00:59:37,839
and and you know uh i'm talking about

1720
00:59:40,870 --> 00:59:39,920
jet fighter pilots and how i i would

1721
00:59:42,789 --> 00:59:40,880
love to be one

1722
00:59:44,309 --> 00:59:42,799
that that job's going to be running out

1723
00:59:46,710 --> 00:59:44,319
i i think

1724
00:59:47,910 --> 00:59:46,720
um so when you think about it that way

1725
00:59:50,309 --> 00:59:47,920
there isn't there prop

1726
00:59:51,109 --> 00:59:50,319
even if it is future us it's we're not

1727
00:59:53,109 --> 00:59:51,119
in those things

1728
00:59:54,950 --> 00:59:53,119
that we've just sent those back and

1729
00:59:56,069 --> 00:59:54,960
maybe that particular shape is something

1730
00:59:59,589 --> 00:59:56,079
that goes through

1731
01:00:02,789 --> 00:59:59,599
the uh the the the rift in the uh

1732
01:00:04,069 --> 01:00:02,799
time space continuing um who knows and

1733
01:00:05,990 --> 01:00:04,079
the fact that they're squiggly they

1734
01:00:07,109 --> 01:00:06,000
smooth these squiggly things and when i

1735
01:00:08,470 --> 01:00:07,119
saw one

1736
01:00:10,470 --> 01:00:08,480
up and up in the space through the

1737
01:00:11,349 --> 01:00:10,480
binoculars it did the squiggly moves

1738
01:00:13,349 --> 01:00:11,359
like i said you're like

1739
01:00:15,030 --> 01:00:13,359
like a like a hot rod doing a donut

1740
01:00:16,069 --> 01:00:15,040
spinning around and then squiggling out

1741
01:00:19,349 --> 01:00:16,079
i was like what what's with the

1742
01:00:23,430 --> 01:00:21,190
but then that's your number one question

1743
01:00:23,829 --> 01:00:23,440
yeah but when you get something in your

1744
01:00:27,190 --> 01:00:23,839
eye

1745
01:00:30,549 --> 01:00:27,200
and i i was shot as a kid uh with a uh

1746
01:00:32,309 --> 01:00:30,559
um my mate uh had one of these um

1747
01:00:33,990 --> 01:00:32,319
little we used to make guns we used to

1748
01:00:36,870 --> 01:00:34,000
use the the rubber

1749
01:00:38,470 --> 01:00:36,880
fingers from uh from a rubber glove and

1750
01:00:42,789 --> 01:00:38,480
we'd attach it to

1751
01:00:45,750 --> 01:00:42,799
um you know a little um plastic uh

1752
01:00:46,150 --> 01:00:45,760
canister uh like a tube and we'd put

1753
01:00:50,230 --> 01:00:46,160
little

1754
01:00:51,829 --> 01:00:50,240
uh or bits of chalk and i got

1755
01:00:53,670 --> 01:00:51,839
i got shot by a bit of chalk i know we

1756
01:00:54,309 --> 01:00:53,680
were crazy you know what uh young boys

1757
01:00:56,549 --> 01:00:54,319
alike

1758
01:00:58,470 --> 01:00:56,559
and we'd run around and this this is

1759
01:00:59,670 --> 01:00:58,480
before i joined the army but i was i was

1760
01:01:01,109 --> 01:00:59,680
heading towards that way would run

1761
01:01:01,990 --> 01:01:01,119
around in the forest it would shoot each

1762
01:01:03,750 --> 01:01:02,000
other

1763
01:01:05,829 --> 01:01:03,760
i got shot in the eye with this little

1764
01:01:07,030 --> 01:01:05,839
tiny bit of chalk and and to this day

1765
01:01:07,750 --> 01:01:07,040
there's still a thing that's in my

1766
01:01:09,270 --> 01:01:07,760
eyeball

1767
01:01:11,910 --> 01:01:09,280
that's that moves around and when i'm

1768
01:01:14,710 --> 01:01:11,920
looking it sort of squiggles about a bit

1769
01:01:15,990 --> 01:01:14,720
and very similar movements to to the

1770
01:01:18,230 --> 01:01:16,000
ufos that people

1771
01:01:20,150 --> 01:01:18,240
sometimes see and i'm thinking to myself

1772
01:01:21,829 --> 01:01:20,160
maybe that's what it maybe the maybe the

1773
01:01:23,589 --> 01:01:21,839
earth is just one big

1774
01:01:25,109 --> 01:01:23,599
giant eyeball and there's a few

1775
01:01:26,549 --> 01:01:25,119
squiggles there's a few things that are

1776
01:01:28,069 --> 01:01:26,559
being shot at it and they're just sort

1777
01:01:29,349 --> 01:01:28,079
of floating there and then they they

1778
01:01:31,750 --> 01:01:29,359
disappear

1779
01:01:34,069 --> 01:01:31,760
um i don't know that's pretty out there

1780
01:01:36,309 --> 01:01:34,079
but i think hey

1781
01:01:37,750 --> 01:01:36,319
it's just as plausible as any other

1782
01:01:38,870 --> 01:01:37,760
theory out there when it comes to this

1783
01:01:42,069 --> 01:01:38,880
topic trust me

1784
01:01:46,309 --> 01:01:42,079
yeah um well you did mention

1785
01:01:48,470 --> 01:01:46,319
um you know uh 40s the 1940s

1786
01:01:50,470 --> 01:01:48,480
and i want to get your opinion on this

1787
01:01:53,829 --> 01:01:50,480
uh let's take for instance the

1788
01:01:55,670 --> 01:01:53,839
famous roswell ufo incident 1947.

1789
01:01:58,470 --> 01:01:55,680
uh we're now hearing from the new york

1790
01:01:58,870 --> 01:01:58,480
times that the pentagon has been briefed

1791
01:02:01,190 --> 01:01:58,880
on

1792
01:02:01,990 --> 01:02:01,200
off-world vehicles they're called yeah

1793
01:02:03,670 --> 01:02:02,000
right yeah

1794
01:02:05,510 --> 01:02:03,680
what do you make of this man our own

1795
01:02:07,510 --> 01:02:05,520
government saying there's possibly

1796
01:02:09,990 --> 01:02:07,520
materials out there from

1797
01:02:11,510 --> 01:02:10,000
something not from this earth and uh do

1798
01:02:14,069 --> 01:02:11,520
you think these things have actually

1799
01:02:16,549 --> 01:02:14,079
crashed on our planet and that we

1800
01:02:18,390 --> 01:02:16,559
have i don't know bob lazard them have

1801
01:02:20,069 --> 01:02:18,400
we reverse

1802
01:02:22,150 --> 01:02:20,079
engineered these things or yeah have

1803
01:02:23,190 --> 01:02:22,160
these craft actually crashed is my

1804
01:02:24,950 --> 01:02:23,200
question i guess

1805
01:02:26,710 --> 01:02:24,960
yeah i think so i think i think we kind

1806
01:02:29,270 --> 01:02:26,720
of i i believe the roswell

1807
01:02:29,750 --> 01:02:29,280
uh crash i think um something of that

1808
01:02:33,270 --> 01:02:29,760
nature

1809
01:02:36,230 --> 01:02:33,280
something so huge in our uh human

1810
01:02:37,349 --> 01:02:36,240
folklore uh has got to come from from uh

1811
01:02:40,470 --> 01:02:37,359
from a truth base

1812
01:02:41,990 --> 01:02:40,480
because it's it's still there we still

1813
01:02:42,630 --> 01:02:42,000
talk about it and it hasn't been

1814
01:02:45,190 --> 01:02:42,640
debunked

1815
01:02:46,870 --> 01:02:45,200
and you know and and of course you it's

1816
01:02:48,069 --> 01:02:46,880
it's also very difficult to debunk it's

1817
01:02:50,549 --> 01:02:48,079
1947 and

1818
01:02:52,390 --> 01:02:50,559
but the debates will go on and on till

1819
01:02:53,029 --> 01:02:52,400
the cows come home as my mother used to

1820
01:02:56,230 --> 01:02:53,039
say

1821
01:02:57,910 --> 01:02:56,240
but uh uh so i think if you're going to

1822
01:02:58,950 --> 01:02:57,920
be in this subject matter you know you

1823
01:03:01,510 --> 01:02:58,960
you can't

1824
01:03:01,990 --> 01:03:01,520
can't be in this realm of our of our

1825
01:03:03,430 --> 01:03:02,000
belief

1826
01:03:05,510 --> 01:03:03,440
that we and the things we chat about

1827
01:03:06,150 --> 01:03:05,520
without saying that you believe in that

1828
01:03:08,230 --> 01:03:06,160
i i mean

1829
01:03:09,910 --> 01:03:08,240
we can't we can't have ufo podcasts and

1830
01:03:10,950 --> 01:03:09,920
go but you know what roswell was a step

1831
01:03:14,950 --> 01:03:10,960
too far

1832
01:03:17,349 --> 01:03:14,960
uh so we so from the very base level

1833
01:03:19,430 --> 01:03:17,359
you know that that is that is a definite

1834
01:03:20,630 --> 01:03:19,440
happening and then if you believe that

1835
01:03:22,309 --> 01:03:20,640
then of course you've got to believe

1836
01:03:22,950 --> 01:03:22,319
reverse engineering you've got to

1837
01:03:25,029 --> 01:03:22,960
believe

1838
01:03:26,309 --> 01:03:25,039
uh and i'm i'm in the i know you are too

1839
01:03:28,710 --> 01:03:26,319
in the bob lazar camp

1840
01:03:29,990 --> 01:03:28,720
because it just i just part of it is

1841
01:03:33,109 --> 01:03:30,000
because i want to believe

1842
01:03:36,789 --> 01:03:33,119
x-files uh and also

1843
01:03:38,710 --> 01:03:36,799
and also because i think um it's

1844
01:03:40,870 --> 01:03:38,720
uh and i'll be honest with you it's just

1845
01:03:41,510 --> 01:03:40,880
exciting for me and i think i love the

1846
01:03:44,630 --> 01:03:41,520
unknown

1847
01:03:46,630 --> 01:03:44,640
and i love that uh and i trust

1848
01:03:48,069 --> 01:03:46,640
knowing that i was in the military

1849
01:03:49,829 --> 01:03:48,079
myself and that you know

1850
01:03:51,670 --> 01:03:49,839
there are secrets that are kept in

1851
01:03:53,190 --> 01:03:51,680
governments i was i had top secret

1852
01:03:56,309 --> 01:03:53,200
vetting when i was a signaler

1853
01:03:58,710 --> 01:03:56,319
so i was privy to um you know things

1854
01:04:00,630 --> 01:03:58,720
that weren't allowed uh that were beyond

1855
01:04:02,390 --> 01:04:00,640
classified it was top secret

1856
01:04:03,910 --> 01:04:02,400
um and there was by the way before you

1857
01:04:06,789 --> 01:04:03,920
ask there was nothing too exciting to

1858
01:04:10,630 --> 01:04:08,630
this is new zealand but you know i

1859
01:04:12,789 --> 01:04:10,640
decided i had to sign a lot of stuff

1860
01:04:14,150 --> 01:04:12,799
and they did a lot of background

1861
01:04:15,670 --> 01:04:14,160
searching on me and stuff

1862
01:04:17,270 --> 01:04:15,680
and it probably did freak them out when

1863
01:04:18,870 --> 01:04:17,280
they realized hang on you were a mistake

1864
01:04:22,789 --> 01:04:18,880
you weren't even supposed to be born

1865
01:04:24,710 --> 01:04:22,799
uh but that's on the record right

1866
01:04:26,470 --> 01:04:24,720
on your birth certificate yeah maybe

1867
01:04:27,349 --> 01:04:26,480
that's why they lead me in i'm like i'm

1868
01:04:31,589 --> 01:04:27,359
like

1869
01:04:34,789 --> 01:04:31,599
you know but um uh what was i saying

1870
01:04:35,670 --> 01:04:34,799
you know me ryan oh gosh um yeah what

1871
01:04:39,029 --> 01:04:35,680
were we saying

1872
01:04:41,589 --> 01:04:39,039
oh uh ufo crashes like oh yeah

1873
01:04:43,190 --> 01:04:41,599
or reverse engineering like we we have

1874
01:04:44,870 --> 01:04:43,200
that hunger to continue believing it

1875
01:04:47,589 --> 01:04:44,880
because that's what keeps us going

1876
01:04:48,549 --> 01:04:47,599
it's taken this long for them to kind of

1877
01:04:50,630 --> 01:04:48,559
admit it now

1878
01:04:52,630 --> 01:04:50,640
and with the off-world vehicles that's

1879
01:04:55,430 --> 01:04:52,640
there's your admission right there

1880
01:04:56,710 --> 01:04:55,440
and this disclosure that where that

1881
01:05:00,309 --> 01:04:56,720
we're currently

1882
01:05:01,430 --> 01:05:00,319
in with the small d uh as richard dolden

1883
01:05:03,910 --> 01:05:01,440
likes to say

1884
01:05:05,910 --> 01:05:03,920
big richard dolan fan by the way uh i

1885
01:05:09,510 --> 01:05:05,920
think if you're gonna be in ufology uh

1886
01:05:11,589 --> 01:05:09,520
you know to have someone of his uh of

1887
01:05:13,109 --> 01:05:11,599
taking the the history of it and taking

1888
01:05:15,270 --> 01:05:13,119
the the complete knowledge of all the

1889
01:05:17,109 --> 01:05:15,280
cases and stuff like that he does

1890
01:05:18,630 --> 01:05:17,119
is so important in our field and i know

1891
01:05:22,230 --> 01:05:18,640
there's a few dudes like that

1892
01:05:24,150 --> 01:05:22,240
but um i like i like that guy um uh

1893
01:05:25,750 --> 01:05:24,160
it gives so much legitimacy to this

1894
01:05:29,190 --> 01:05:25,760
thing and i think

1895
01:05:29,510 --> 01:05:29,200
um i'm excited about about next year i'm

1896
01:05:40,870 --> 01:05:29,520
i

1897
01:05:43,430 --> 01:05:40,880
our houses

1898
01:05:44,150 --> 01:05:43,440
has been positive and and and in some

1899
01:05:46,630 --> 01:05:44,160
ways

1900
01:05:48,710 --> 01:05:46,640
for the for the mind because we're ex

1901
01:05:50,549 --> 01:05:48,720
but in

1902
01:05:52,950 --> 01:05:50,559
and to that degree there's been a lot of

1903
01:05:54,470 --> 01:05:52,960
negativity in conspiracy theories and

1904
01:05:55,270 --> 01:05:54,480
people spending way too much time on the

1905
01:05:58,150 --> 01:05:55,280
internet

1906
01:05:59,430 --> 01:05:58,160
and getting really unhealthy and i feel

1907
01:06:00,470 --> 01:05:59,440
sorry for those people i don't know

1908
01:06:03,589 --> 01:06:00,480
about you but

1909
01:06:06,230 --> 01:06:03,599
like we've all lost or know someone

1910
01:06:07,349 --> 01:06:06,240
who's lost a friend because of their

1911
01:06:09,430 --> 01:06:07,359
beliefs over the la

1912
01:06:10,789 --> 01:06:09,440
over this year and we go what i didn't

1913
01:06:12,549 --> 01:06:10,799
know you're okay you're into

1914
01:06:13,990 --> 01:06:12,559
and so we go oh i can't talk to them so

1915
01:06:14,549 --> 01:06:14,000
much anymore and that that's been

1916
01:06:18,309 --> 01:06:14,559
happening

1917
01:06:21,349 --> 01:06:18,319
um because of the goddamn internet and

1918
01:06:21,670 --> 01:06:21,359
uh you've got to be really careful what

1919
01:06:25,829 --> 01:06:21,680
you

1920
01:06:27,430 --> 01:06:25,839
i even have felt that i know i'm

1921
01:06:27,829 --> 01:06:27,440
spitting off into more tangents now but

1922
01:06:29,109 --> 01:06:27,839
that

1923
01:06:31,510 --> 01:06:29,119
i think the listeners are getting used

1924
01:06:33,029 --> 01:06:31,520
to it is that

1925
01:06:35,190 --> 01:06:33,039
is that that's one of the things with

1926
01:06:37,750 --> 01:06:35,200
with ufology is that

1927
01:06:39,750 --> 01:06:37,760
there are dark rabbit holes there that

1928
01:06:40,789 --> 01:06:39,760
you can fall into and and even when you

1929
01:06:42,230 --> 01:06:40,799
go to

1930
01:06:44,230 --> 01:06:42,240
uh conferences like contact in the

1931
01:06:47,109 --> 01:06:44,240
desert that there's some people

1932
01:06:48,470 --> 01:06:47,119
that you know aren't legit or they're or

1933
01:06:51,910 --> 01:06:48,480
they're

1934
01:06:55,270 --> 01:06:51,920
springing forth cultish type uh

1935
01:06:57,990 --> 01:06:55,280
references and and storylines uh and

1936
01:07:00,069 --> 01:06:58,000
and one of a bit of word [\h__\h] that

1937
01:07:01,990 --> 01:07:00,079
are suckering people in um

1938
01:07:03,510 --> 01:07:02,000
people like me who want the unknown who

1939
01:07:03,829 --> 01:07:03,520
feel they don't belong who are looking

1940
01:07:06,150 --> 01:07:03,839
for

1941
01:07:08,069 --> 01:07:06,160
weirdness and so you've really got to

1942
01:07:08,789 --> 01:07:08,079
have your head together and you've also

1943
01:07:10,789 --> 01:07:08,799
got to

1944
01:07:11,910 --> 01:07:10,799
have friends and keep keep your people

1945
01:07:13,589 --> 01:07:11,920
close and so

1946
01:07:14,950 --> 01:07:13,599
and springboard each other with what do

1947
01:07:15,990 --> 01:07:14,960
you think about that and and like that's

1948
01:07:17,910 --> 01:07:16,000
why i have buttons

1949
01:07:19,349 --> 01:07:17,920
and i have like guys that and dan

1950
01:07:22,870 --> 01:07:19,359
schreiber um

1951
01:07:23,990 --> 01:07:22,880
and faria that we kind of uh if i might

1952
01:07:25,430 --> 01:07:24,000
be thinking about something and i'll

1953
01:07:25,910 --> 01:07:25,440
spring it to them and they'll go oh now

1954
01:07:27,430 --> 01:07:25,920
that's

1955
01:07:28,630 --> 01:07:27,440
i don't know about that and we'll and

1956
01:07:29,349 --> 01:07:28,640
you gotta and then do a bit more

1957
01:07:31,190 --> 01:07:29,359
research

1958
01:07:32,470 --> 01:07:31,200
but when things start to go dark that's

1959
01:07:34,870 --> 01:07:32,480
a good sign that

1960
01:07:36,870 --> 01:07:34,880
you should pull out a bit and as a comic

1961
01:07:38,390 --> 01:07:36,880
and as an entertainer i i love to keep

1962
01:07:39,349 --> 01:07:38,400
things light because i think we need to

1963
01:07:42,950 --> 01:07:39,359
talk about this

1964
01:07:44,870 --> 01:07:42,960
but we need to we need to um

1965
01:07:46,870 --> 01:07:44,880
we need to be happy especially in these

1966
01:07:48,470 --> 01:07:46,880
times so

1967
01:07:49,910 --> 01:07:48,480
i just i'll just say that kind of stuff

1968
01:07:51,829 --> 01:07:49,920
i think it's important

1969
01:07:53,270 --> 01:07:51,839
it it's very important and i'm so happy

1970
01:07:56,069 --> 01:07:53,280
you brought it up i mean

1971
01:07:56,630 --> 01:07:56,079
i get i get emails every day from

1972
01:07:58,510 --> 01:07:56,640
people's

1973
01:08:00,710 --> 01:07:58,520
you know you would whether it's

1974
01:08:03,670 --> 01:08:00,720
anti-vaxxers or q anon

1975
01:08:05,430 --> 01:08:03,680
or all this complete and utter [\h__\h]

1976
01:08:08,309 --> 01:08:05,440
and i'm not afraid to say that

1977
01:08:09,349 --> 01:08:08,319
um it's dangerous yeah these are the

1978
01:08:12,789 --> 01:08:09,359
type of people who

1979
01:08:16,550 --> 01:08:12,799
shoot up pizza shops and um drink bleach

1980
01:08:18,709 --> 01:08:16,560
and you know to cure viruses and look

1981
01:08:20,390 --> 01:08:18,719
we talk about ufos of course we believe

1982
01:08:21,829 --> 01:08:20,400
there are conspiracies but when it gets

1983
01:08:23,789 --> 01:08:21,839
to the point where

1984
01:08:26,309 --> 01:08:23,799
people are dying because of these

1985
01:08:29,030 --> 01:08:26,319
unsubstantiated claims and uh

1986
01:08:30,470 --> 01:08:29,040
disinformation that's a problem so i'm

1987
01:08:33,110 --> 01:08:30,480
glad to hear you say that

1988
01:08:35,030 --> 01:08:33,120
um i always i always promote critical

1989
01:08:36,309 --> 01:08:35,040
thinking on my show which a lot of this

1990
01:08:39,030 --> 01:08:36,319
conspiracy theory

1991
01:08:39,910 --> 01:08:39,040
lacks nowadays when once it was it was a

1992
01:08:42,789 --> 01:08:39,920
way to like

1993
01:08:44,390 --> 01:08:42,799
you know exercise your your thinking

1994
01:08:46,390 --> 01:08:44,400
skills and your common sense and your

1995
01:08:47,990 --> 01:08:46,400
critical thinking and now it's become

1996
01:08:50,309 --> 01:08:48,000
the complete opposite of what it once

1997
01:08:50,950 --> 01:08:50,319
was and look i understand people are

1998
01:08:53,030 --> 01:08:50,960
scared

1999
01:08:54,630 --> 01:08:53,040
you know we live in uncertain times and

2000
01:08:55,669 --> 01:08:54,640
uh there are people who will take

2001
01:08:58,789 --> 01:08:55,679
advantage of that

2002
01:09:00,149 --> 01:08:58,799
and tell you believe and yeah you will

2003
01:09:02,390 --> 01:09:00,159
pay them for that

2004
01:09:04,470 --> 01:09:02,400
information so i i agree with you you

2005
01:09:06,229 --> 01:09:04,480
know i i always struggle with these ufo

2006
01:09:08,630 --> 01:09:06,239
conferences that i go to

2007
01:09:10,630 --> 01:09:08,640
where you've got a military pilot up

2008
01:09:11,430 --> 01:09:10,640
there talking about a tic tac ufo that's

2009
01:09:13,189 --> 01:09:11,440
documented

2010
01:09:16,470 --> 01:09:13,199
and then you have someone who says i've

2011
01:09:18,789 --> 01:09:16,480
met 183 races of aliens

2012
01:09:20,470 --> 01:09:18,799
yeah and they're you know this and i

2013
01:09:21,189 --> 01:09:20,480
struggle you know don't get me wrong

2014
01:09:23,910 --> 01:09:21,199
because there's a

2015
01:09:25,910 --> 01:09:23,920
there's a fun part to that and as a as

2016
01:09:28,550 --> 01:09:25,920
an actor and as a as a guy who

2017
01:09:29,749 --> 01:09:28,560
loves mork from orc you know i'm excited

2018
01:09:32,070 --> 01:09:29,759
about that kind of thing but

2019
01:09:34,149 --> 01:09:32,080
you've got to take a strong bag of salt

2020
01:09:35,990 --> 01:09:34,159
with you not just a grain

2021
01:09:37,349 --> 01:09:36,000
um and you got to flick it over your

2022
01:09:41,430 --> 01:09:37,359
shoulder every five minutes

2023
01:09:43,030 --> 01:09:41,440
uh yeah yeah yeah that's such a good

2024
01:09:45,510 --> 01:09:43,040
point man well i'm happy to

2025
01:09:47,189 --> 01:09:45,520
hear you say that because it is

2026
01:09:49,269 --> 01:09:47,199
something i think that has

2027
01:09:50,229 --> 01:09:49,279
drastically affected the united states

2028
01:09:52,229 --> 01:09:50,239
in particular

2029
01:09:54,229 --> 01:09:52,239
when it comes to politics and how we're

2030
01:09:55,270 --> 01:09:54,239
dealing with things going on in the

2031
01:09:56,630 --> 01:09:55,280
world but um

2032
01:09:59,110 --> 01:09:56,640
that's a whole other rabbit hole we

2033
01:10:01,189 --> 01:09:59,120
won't go down but i do want to uh

2034
01:10:03,189 --> 01:10:01,199
yeah i do want to get to some listener

2035
01:10:06,470 --> 01:10:03,199
questions here if you're game for that

2036
01:10:07,910 --> 01:10:06,480
yeah sure awesome awesome and it's up to

2037
01:10:08,630 --> 01:10:07,920
you how in depth you want to get with

2038
01:10:10,630 --> 01:10:08,640
these brother

2039
01:10:12,470 --> 01:10:10,640
i know you're a busy man but um let's

2040
01:10:14,149 --> 01:10:12,480
start with this one it kind of ties into

2041
01:10:17,270 --> 01:10:14,159
what we were just talking about about

2042
01:10:21,270 --> 01:10:17,280
cultish figures and whatnot um tor

2043
01:10:23,590 --> 01:10:21,280
from patreon asks me uh the narratives

2044
01:10:24,709 --> 01:10:23,600
people go by in ufology very greatly

2045
01:10:26,950 --> 01:10:24,719
like we talked about

2046
01:10:28,390 --> 01:10:26,960
you know um we've got tom delong and

2047
01:10:29,110 --> 01:10:28,400
everything this guy's doing talking

2048
01:10:31,270 --> 01:10:29,120
about uh

2049
01:10:32,470 --> 01:10:31,280
ufos are a potential threat and then on

2050
01:10:33,669 --> 01:10:32,480
the other side you've got these

2051
01:10:36,870 --> 01:10:33,679
individuals like

2052
01:10:39,669 --> 01:10:36,880
stephen greer um familiar with

2053
01:10:41,030 --> 01:10:39,679
uh yep yep uh saying the antithesis you

2054
01:10:43,750 --> 01:10:41,040
know aliens are peaceful

2055
01:10:44,470 --> 01:10:43,760
then um they're here for good reason so

2056
01:10:46,709 --> 01:10:44,480
uh

2057
01:10:48,070 --> 01:10:46,719
how do we decipher between these two

2058
01:10:50,070 --> 01:10:48,080
narratives and

2059
01:10:52,149 --> 01:10:50,080
is the answer somewhere in between or

2060
01:10:55,270 --> 01:10:52,159
what do you think personally about these

2061
01:10:55,669 --> 01:10:55,280
extremely drastic uh extremes that we

2062
01:10:59,030 --> 01:10:55,679
see

2063
01:11:01,189 --> 01:10:59,040
in the ufo field i i think the answer

2064
01:11:02,950 --> 01:11:01,199
definitely is somewhere in between

2065
01:11:04,709 --> 01:11:02,960
and it's important to have both ends of

2066
01:11:06,310 --> 01:11:04,719
the spectrum and you've got to remember

2067
01:11:09,350 --> 01:11:06,320
that the united states

2068
01:11:10,870 --> 01:11:09,360
as uh formally and right up until

2069
01:11:12,950 --> 01:11:10,880
recently i believe you know i mean this

2070
01:11:14,470 --> 01:11:12,960
is an argumentative position

2071
01:11:16,149 --> 01:11:14,480
but you know being the biggest

2072
01:11:17,910 --> 01:11:16,159
superpower in the world

2073
01:11:19,669 --> 01:11:17,920
uh always is on the front foot with

2074
01:11:22,709 --> 01:11:19,679
defense and they have to

2075
01:11:24,950 --> 01:11:22,719
they've got to keep their big walls of

2076
01:11:27,350 --> 01:11:24,960
rome protected so it doesn't implode

2077
01:11:28,790 --> 01:11:27,360
and you know lately you know it has been

2078
01:11:32,390 --> 01:11:28,800
and i think

2079
01:11:33,510 --> 01:11:32,400
um that's why they're on the front foot

2080
01:11:35,669 --> 01:11:33,520
rightfully so

2081
01:11:36,870 --> 01:11:35,679
defense wise on what are these things

2082
01:11:39,350 --> 01:11:36,880
and are they a threat

2083
01:11:40,070 --> 01:11:39,360
and of course that makes total sense now

2084
01:11:42,709 --> 01:11:40,080
if this was

2085
01:11:43,830 --> 01:11:42,719
new zealand uh and it helps having me

2086
01:11:46,070 --> 01:11:43,840
you know i'm from

2087
01:11:47,270 --> 01:11:46,080
i'm from the shire i'm from a little uh

2088
01:11:50,310 --> 01:11:47,280
a you know

2089
01:11:54,229 --> 01:11:50,320
island uh in the south pacific um

2090
01:11:58,070 --> 01:11:54,239
set of islands i should say um but uh

2091
01:12:01,110 --> 01:11:58,080
we we wouldn't be uh you know as worried

2092
01:12:04,390 --> 01:12:01,120
defense-wise about these things um

2093
01:12:04,790 --> 01:12:04,400
because you know what are we protecting

2094
01:12:06,950 --> 01:12:04,800
um

2095
01:12:08,229 --> 01:12:06,960
a lot of a lot of sheep and cows and

2096
01:12:11,990 --> 01:12:08,239
some and some great

2097
01:12:13,750 --> 01:12:12,000
visual effects artists in wellington but

2098
01:12:15,510 --> 01:12:13,760
uh so i can understand that threat part

2099
01:12:18,950 --> 01:12:15,520
of it and and that that

2100
01:12:21,910 --> 01:12:18,960
that's good because uh but here's

2101
01:12:22,390 --> 01:12:21,920
here's my here's my other thoughts on

2102
01:12:26,790 --> 01:12:22,400
that

2103
01:12:28,149 --> 01:12:26,800
threat we'd all be dead by now or they

2104
01:12:28,870 --> 01:12:28,159
would have already taken over come on

2105
01:12:31,910 --> 01:12:28,880
let's be honest

2106
01:12:33,910 --> 01:12:31,920
1947 was the first crash landing uh

2107
01:12:35,270 --> 01:12:33,920
you know it's not going to take them how

2108
01:12:37,430 --> 01:12:35,280
much recon

2109
01:12:39,189 --> 01:12:37,440
are they doing you know and this comes

2110
01:12:41,270 --> 01:12:39,199
from my old military days i know what

2111
01:12:44,229 --> 01:12:41,280
it's like to go on a recon you do one

2112
01:12:46,870 --> 01:12:44,239
you get your you you get all the um the

2113
01:12:48,709 --> 01:12:46,880
stuff you need

2114
01:12:49,990 --> 01:12:48,719
and then you return that night in the

2115
01:12:52,790 --> 01:12:50,000
dead of the night and you

2116
01:12:53,990 --> 01:12:52,800
invade and and you win uh so the fact

2117
01:12:56,310 --> 01:12:54,000
that that hasn't happened

2118
01:12:58,390 --> 01:12:56,320
makes me believe that we can shift

2119
01:12:58,870 --> 01:12:58,400
things slightly more towards the stephen

2120
01:13:01,030 --> 01:12:58,880
gray

2121
01:13:02,950 --> 01:13:01,040
idea that it's a consciousness that

2122
01:13:04,870 --> 01:13:02,960
these things uh we just need to

2123
01:13:06,630 --> 01:13:04,880
and i love this idea that we can all

2124
01:13:09,990 --> 01:13:06,640
connect through meditation

2125
01:13:13,590 --> 01:13:10,000
and and that we are all one now that

2126
01:13:15,669 --> 01:13:13,600
uh it could have been uh

2127
01:13:17,030 --> 01:13:15,679
what's the james cameron movie avatar it

2128
01:13:18,870 --> 01:13:17,040
could be that i'm a big

2129
01:13:20,149 --> 01:13:18,880
fan but that that they talk about that

2130
01:13:23,030 --> 01:13:20,159
there and

2131
01:13:24,310 --> 01:13:23,040
um it makes total sense because all

2132
01:13:27,350 --> 01:13:24,320
living things you know that

2133
01:13:28,550 --> 01:13:27,360
the old adage of you you know what your

2134
01:13:31,189 --> 01:13:28,560
pets are thinking

2135
01:13:32,630 --> 01:13:31,199
you you you when you when you come home

2136
01:13:35,830 --> 01:13:32,640
your dog's excited to see you

2137
01:13:39,990 --> 01:13:35,840
we connect with uh other sentient beings

2138
01:13:42,470 --> 01:13:40,000
uh without you know communication

2139
01:13:43,990 --> 01:13:42,480
and that's through through through the

2140
01:13:45,590 --> 01:13:44,000
mind and through the head and the more

2141
01:13:46,070 --> 01:13:45,600
we advance ourselves the more we're

2142
01:13:49,189 --> 01:13:46,080
going to

2143
01:13:52,070 --> 01:13:49,199
open up those extra parts of our brain

2144
01:13:53,910 --> 01:13:52,080
that are going to enable us to mind read

2145
01:13:55,110 --> 01:13:53,920
each other now you know we can then go

2146
01:13:58,229 --> 01:13:55,120
into

2147
01:14:00,709 --> 01:13:58,239
technology trying to help with that i.e

2148
01:14:02,630 --> 01:14:00,719
musk you know chuck a chuck a thing on a

2149
01:14:04,070 --> 01:14:02,640
pig and next thing you know you're fast

2150
01:14:05,510 --> 01:14:04,080
forwarding your memories i mean that's

2151
01:14:06,709 --> 01:14:05,520
that's people i know people are freaking

2152
01:14:09,350 --> 01:14:06,719
out about that

2153
01:14:10,470 --> 01:14:09,360
but there is something to be said about

2154
01:14:12,630 --> 01:14:10,480
um

2155
01:14:13,510 --> 01:14:12,640
not needing that and look i'm not a big

2156
01:14:15,430 --> 01:14:13,520
greer

2157
01:14:17,590 --> 01:14:15,440
follower i mean i know what he's i know

2158
01:14:19,669 --> 01:14:17,600
what he does and look i've barely

2159
01:14:20,870 --> 01:14:19,679
meditated in my life because it's just

2160
01:14:22,550 --> 01:14:20,880
not who i am but i'm

2161
01:14:23,910 --> 01:14:22,560
i'm willing to understand it and i know

2162
01:14:25,910 --> 01:14:23,920
i know about the dmt

2163
01:14:27,350 --> 01:14:25,920
stuff and i mean look i've done magic

2164
01:14:29,750 --> 01:14:27,360
mushrooms uh

2165
01:14:30,630 --> 01:14:29,760
and it was an accident uh no it wasn't

2166
01:14:32,950 --> 01:14:30,640
uh but i nearly

2167
01:14:33,910 --> 01:14:32,960
i nearly ate my shoe uh i thought it was

2168
01:14:36,950 --> 01:14:33,920
made of chocolate

2169
01:14:39,110 --> 01:14:36,960
but that's another story but uh

2170
01:14:40,550 --> 01:14:39,120
that's that's for the patreon yeah for

2171
01:14:42,790 --> 01:14:40,560
the patreon

2172
01:14:43,669 --> 01:14:42,800
um so yeah just to answer the the the

2173
01:14:47,350 --> 01:14:43,679
question

2174
01:14:49,830 --> 01:14:47,360
um to to round things up i think it's

2175
01:14:50,630 --> 01:14:49,840
um it's definitely in the middle there

2176
01:14:52,070 --> 01:14:50,640
but um

2177
01:14:53,910 --> 01:14:52,080
i can understand both ends of the

2178
01:14:54,950 --> 01:14:53,920
spectrum and i think we should be more

2179
01:14:58,390 --> 01:14:54,960
concentrating

2180
01:15:00,149 --> 01:14:58,400
on uh the

2181
01:15:01,990 --> 01:15:00,159
yeah the thought processes of our brain

2182
01:15:02,950 --> 01:15:02,000
and what and how we can connect to these

2183
01:15:06,790 --> 01:15:02,960
things

2184
01:15:10,229 --> 01:15:06,800
and

2185
01:15:12,390 --> 01:15:10,239
but at the same time

2186
01:15:14,470 --> 01:15:12,400
haven't done it too scared to do it i'd

2187
01:15:15,910 --> 01:15:14,480
rather just write jokes and act

2188
01:15:17,990 --> 01:15:15,920
you know what i mean but i'm interested

2189
01:15:21,030 --> 01:15:18,000
absolutely yeah yeah totally i'm

2190
01:15:22,790 --> 01:15:21,040
i'm terrified of of taking anything to

2191
01:15:24,790 --> 01:15:22,800
alter my perception um

2192
01:15:26,950 --> 01:15:24,800
hey cause i don't think personally

2193
01:15:29,350 --> 01:15:26,960
physically i could handle it and be

2194
01:15:30,310 --> 01:15:29,360
like i'm i'm there's always that fear of

2195
01:15:32,310 --> 01:15:30,320
like what if i

2196
01:15:33,510 --> 01:15:32,320
could happen yeah yeah what if i can't

2197
01:15:35,189 --> 01:15:33,520
come back exactly

2198
01:15:36,550 --> 01:15:35,199
so no i think you're right though i

2199
01:15:38,229 --> 01:15:36,560
think you know

2200
01:15:40,229 --> 01:15:38,239
remaining open to the possibility i mean

2201
01:15:41,590 --> 01:15:40,239
i had a woman on a couple of weeks ago

2202
01:15:44,310 --> 01:15:41,600
who talked all about

2203
01:15:45,350 --> 01:15:44,320
the consciousness uh aspect to all this

2204
01:15:48,709 --> 01:15:45,360
and um

2205
01:15:49,990 --> 01:15:48,719
you know the us government using remote

2206
01:15:54,790 --> 01:15:50,000
viewers to yeah

2207
01:15:57,830 --> 01:15:56,790
yeah i believe it's real yeah and i

2208
01:16:00,390 --> 01:15:57,840
think again like

2209
01:16:01,590 --> 01:16:00,400
it's stuff i'm willing to entertain the

2210
01:16:04,630 --> 01:16:01,600
more i realize

2211
01:16:05,430 --> 01:16:04,640
how not set in stone the world is in

2212
01:16:08,709 --> 01:16:05,440
front of me

2213
01:16:09,669 --> 01:16:08,719
um so yeah we'll we'll see i do agree i

2214
01:16:11,750 --> 01:16:09,679
think the answer

2215
01:16:13,830 --> 01:16:11,760
um is somewhere in between both of those

2216
01:16:15,669 --> 01:16:13,840
but uh we don't know what it is so of

2217
01:16:16,229 --> 01:16:15,679
course our military is always going to

2218
01:16:17,830 --> 01:16:16,239
look at it

2219
01:16:19,350 --> 01:16:17,840
as a potential threat so i think that's

2220
01:16:21,590 --> 01:16:19,360
important too you know

2221
01:16:23,750 --> 01:16:21,600
um it'll always be there but hopefully

2222
01:16:26,229 --> 01:16:23,760
they're uh going to come save us soon

2223
01:16:27,270 --> 01:16:26,239
uh if anything but um all right here's

2224
01:16:29,510 --> 01:16:27,280
our next one

2225
01:16:30,390 --> 01:16:29,520
bigfoot society uh this is another

2226
01:16:33,270 --> 01:16:30,400
really popular

2227
01:16:34,550 --> 01:16:33,280
podcast in the uh the sasquatch realm uh

2228
01:16:36,229 --> 01:16:34,560
he asks on twitter

2229
01:16:37,830 --> 01:16:36,239
what's the one guest you want to

2230
01:16:40,149 --> 01:16:37,840
interview if

2231
01:16:41,110 --> 01:16:40,159
uh aliens like us gets a second season

2232
01:16:43,030 --> 01:16:41,120
we'll get to that

2233
01:16:44,149 --> 01:16:43,040
um who would you want to interview and

2234
01:16:47,030 --> 01:16:44,159
um who you

2235
01:16:48,790 --> 01:16:47,040
who's like your dream person well we i

2236
01:16:51,270 --> 01:16:48,800
wanted to get uh

2237
01:16:51,830 --> 01:16:51,280
i mean i i tommed along definitely in my

2238
01:16:55,270 --> 01:16:51,840
own right

2239
01:16:57,030 --> 01:16:55,280
was one you know um but from

2240
01:16:59,590 --> 01:16:57,040
other than other than his perspective

2241
01:17:01,669 --> 01:16:59,600
which is not he's just you know really

2242
01:17:03,430 --> 01:17:01,679
he's in deep and i he he's got so many

2243
01:17:06,149 --> 01:17:03,440
contacts and uh

2244
01:17:06,950 --> 01:17:06,159
with to the stars they've got made such

2245
01:17:09,830 --> 01:17:06,960
a great

2246
01:17:10,630 --> 01:17:09,840
institution with gaining so much uh

2247
01:17:13,270 --> 01:17:10,640
intelligence

2248
01:17:14,149 --> 01:17:13,280
and uh and putting it out there um you

2249
01:17:16,709 --> 01:17:14,159
know um

2250
01:17:17,590 --> 01:17:16,719
and identified as a show that's uh it's

2251
01:17:19,430 --> 01:17:17,600
it's opening

2252
01:17:21,350 --> 01:17:19,440
people's minds up and and it's it's

2253
01:17:23,030 --> 01:17:21,360
advancing us through into disclosure

2254
01:17:24,550 --> 01:17:23,040
which is which is exciting and so any

2255
01:17:28,070 --> 01:17:24,560
anyone involved in that

2256
01:17:30,149 --> 01:17:28,080
show um any of those uh gentlemen i see

2257
01:17:30,870 --> 01:17:30,159
on tv that that seem to be connected

2258
01:17:33,270 --> 01:17:30,880
with

2259
01:17:34,310 --> 01:17:33,280
uh a bit more knowledge a bit more um

2260
01:17:35,990 --> 01:17:34,320
classified stuff

2261
01:17:37,350 --> 01:17:36,000
but of course you know this will they

2262
01:17:37,910 --> 01:17:37,360
reveal it you know what are they willing

2263
01:17:40,149 --> 01:17:37,920
to say

2264
01:17:42,390 --> 01:17:40,159
and a lot of these guys that are retired

2265
01:17:45,910 --> 01:17:42,400
the other thing that comes to my mind is

2266
01:17:47,830 --> 01:17:45,920
is eyewitnesses who um are

2267
01:17:50,149 --> 01:17:47,840
really getting on a bit who who are

2268
01:17:51,030 --> 01:17:50,159
ex-military who have retired and who can

2269
01:17:54,550 --> 01:17:51,040
reveal

2270
01:17:57,189 --> 01:17:54,560
truth uh testimonials that that i've

2271
01:17:58,149 --> 01:17:57,199
i've read uh and i think was it

2272
01:18:01,669 --> 01:17:58,159
unacknowledged

2273
01:18:03,590 --> 01:18:01,679
that that that uh that book um yeah

2274
01:18:04,790 --> 01:18:03,600
some of those some of those some of

2275
01:18:07,669 --> 01:18:04,800
those testimonials

2276
01:18:08,470 --> 01:18:07,679
are um fascinating and uh are from

2277
01:18:10,630 --> 01:18:08,480
retired

2278
01:18:11,590 --> 01:18:10,640
generals and high-ranking high-ranking

2279
01:18:14,229 --> 01:18:11,600
people

2280
01:18:15,270 --> 01:18:14,239
uh that just gives so much legitimacy to

2281
01:18:17,030 --> 01:18:15,280
the field

2282
01:18:18,470 --> 01:18:17,040
that i would i would love to talk and i

2283
01:18:20,790 --> 01:18:18,480
like talking to um

2284
01:18:21,910 --> 01:18:20,800
older people i just think i i've always

2285
01:18:23,750 --> 01:18:21,920
respected

2286
01:18:25,030 --> 01:18:23,760
older generations as we as we really

2287
01:18:27,270 --> 01:18:25,040
really should

2288
01:18:29,030 --> 01:18:27,280
um being ex-military as well because of

2289
01:18:30,470 --> 01:18:29,040
the people who have fought in wars and

2290
01:18:34,790 --> 01:18:30,480
things like that you know

2291
01:18:38,070 --> 01:18:34,800
um so as as as young minds i think we

2292
01:18:41,510 --> 01:18:38,080
we need to uh hear the wisdom of older

2293
01:18:43,110 --> 01:18:41,520
folk um so i i would go down that

2294
01:18:46,149 --> 01:18:43,120
direction for sure if we

2295
01:18:48,310 --> 01:18:46,159
if we did go uh get another season

2296
01:18:49,590 --> 01:18:48,320
awesome man yeah i totally agree i mean

2297
01:18:52,149 --> 01:18:49,600
the first person

2298
01:18:53,030 --> 01:18:52,159
i interviewed when i was 13 years old

2299
01:18:56,390 --> 01:18:53,040
was uh

2300
01:18:59,030 --> 01:18:56,400
a vietnam vet you know he uh he had a

2301
01:18:59,990 --> 01:18:59,040
ufo sighting over the pacific and uh he

2302
01:19:02,870 --> 01:19:00,000
didn't talk about it

2303
01:19:03,590 --> 01:19:02,880
ever to anyone yeah um i got in touch

2304
01:19:06,149 --> 01:19:03,600
with him

2305
01:19:06,709 --> 01:19:06,159
and like talked to him for three hours

2306
01:19:09,110 --> 01:19:06,719
maybe

2307
01:19:11,110 --> 01:19:09,120
five minutes was about the ufo sighting

2308
01:19:12,229 --> 01:19:11,120
but the stories this guy had to tell i

2309
01:19:15,189 --> 01:19:12,239
agree with you like

2310
01:19:16,870 --> 01:19:15,199
what a what an amazing life that a lot

2311
01:19:19,430 --> 01:19:16,880
of these people have led and like

2312
01:19:21,910 --> 01:19:19,440
let's respect that let's uh let's build

2313
01:19:22,229 --> 01:19:21,920
off of it and let's ask new questions so

2314
01:19:24,149 --> 01:19:22,239
yeah

2315
01:19:25,590 --> 01:19:24,159
totally i think that's an awesome

2316
01:19:28,149 --> 01:19:25,600
awesome way to go about it and i can't

2317
01:19:31,110 --> 01:19:28,159
wait hopefully to hear some of those um

2318
01:19:32,550 --> 01:19:31,120
awesome violeta on patreon she asks all

2319
01:19:33,510 --> 01:19:32,560
right we're going back to the x-files

2320
01:19:35,270 --> 01:19:33,520
reese um

2321
01:19:37,830 --> 01:19:35,280
did you ever get into any in-depth

2322
01:19:38,950 --> 01:19:37,840
discussions about ufos with duchovny or

2323
01:19:41,590 --> 01:19:38,960
anyone

2324
01:19:42,630 --> 01:19:41,600
on set did that ever happen good

2325
01:19:46,310 --> 01:19:42,640
question

2326
01:19:48,630 --> 01:19:46,320
uh no but uh decoffnee

2327
01:19:49,750 --> 01:19:48,640
was reading uh that book uh i think it's

2328
01:19:52,709 --> 01:19:49,760
called humanoids

2329
01:19:54,550 --> 01:19:52,719
or humanoid or you yeah you know it's

2330
01:19:59,189 --> 01:19:54,560
it's uh i'll have to check on what

2331
01:20:02,470 --> 01:19:59,199
but it was i it was about uh hugh

2332
01:20:04,870 --> 01:20:02,480
humanity uh and and uh so he

2333
01:20:06,149 --> 01:20:04,880
he's into the into the subject matter so

2334
01:20:09,270 --> 01:20:06,159
he's just not acting

2335
01:20:12,629 --> 01:20:09,280
he is you know he's a he's a believer

2336
01:20:16,310 --> 01:20:12,639
um and so i found that really cool

2337
01:20:18,629 --> 01:20:16,320
um but yeah um short answer is

2338
01:20:20,229 --> 01:20:18,639
we yeah we there wasn't a lot of

2339
01:20:23,189 --> 01:20:20,239
standing around the fire

2340
01:20:26,629 --> 01:20:23,199
um yarning it was more like me and my

2341
01:20:28,870 --> 01:20:26,639
trailer going over those difficult lines

2342
01:20:30,629 --> 01:20:28,880
dude you had some heavy material there

2343
01:20:33,590 --> 01:20:30,639
heavy material man

2344
01:20:34,950 --> 01:20:33,600
ah talk about like you know monologues

2345
01:20:37,830 --> 01:20:34,960
i'm with you i'm

2346
01:20:39,830 --> 01:20:37,840
terrified if i got a script and i saw

2347
01:20:41,750 --> 01:20:39,840
anything like more than this

2348
01:20:43,590 --> 01:20:41,760
i just freaked out yeah i totally

2349
01:20:45,350 --> 01:20:43,600
understand only then i had to get like

2350
01:20:47,990 --> 01:20:45,360
someone really iconic

2351
01:20:49,350 --> 01:20:48,000
to try and stab me to death with this

2352
01:20:51,430 --> 01:20:49,360
glass bottle

2353
01:20:55,350 --> 01:20:51,440
and uh you know it was one of those it

2354
01:20:59,270 --> 01:20:57,669
a theater glass so it was like it wasn't

2355
01:21:01,669 --> 01:20:59,280
proper glass but we

2356
01:21:02,790 --> 01:21:01,679
he i got him to sort of poke me and then

2357
01:21:05,669 --> 01:21:02,800
he actually

2358
01:21:06,950 --> 01:21:05,679
made me bleed i got a little scar in my

2359
01:21:09,110 --> 01:21:06,960
in my fingers

2360
01:21:11,189 --> 01:21:09,120
because even if it was like it's like

2361
01:21:11,990 --> 01:21:11,199
candy glass it's like glass that you use

2362
01:21:13,669 --> 01:21:12,000
it in

2363
01:21:15,350 --> 01:21:13,679
tv that when you smash it it's not a

2364
01:21:17,830 --> 01:21:15,360
real glass but it's kind of like made of

2365
01:21:19,910 --> 01:21:17,840
candy but it's still it still managed to

2366
01:21:21,270 --> 01:21:19,920
uh make me bleed and so i'll always have

2367
01:21:26,830 --> 01:21:21,280
that memory

2368
01:21:30,070 --> 01:21:26,840
of a permanent souvenir from the x-files

2369
01:21:31,750 --> 01:21:30,080
yeah that's awesome man well hey

2370
01:21:33,750 --> 01:21:31,760
you know i mean we've heard in the past

2371
01:21:35,510 --> 01:21:33,760
that x-files had

2372
01:21:37,110 --> 01:21:35,520
people on set from intelligence

2373
01:21:39,510 --> 01:21:37,120
communities and uh

2374
01:21:40,550 --> 01:21:39,520
actual fbi investigators who looked into

2375
01:21:42,470 --> 01:21:40,560
weird stuff

2376
01:21:43,910 --> 01:21:42,480
so we know that a lot of inspiration

2377
01:21:46,950 --> 01:21:43,920
from the show came from

2378
01:21:48,950 --> 01:21:46,960
of course life is really cool so um hey

2379
01:21:50,149 --> 01:21:48,960
that's all we can ask for in a show you

2380
01:21:52,149 --> 01:21:50,159
know covering this topic

2381
01:21:54,709 --> 01:21:52,159
is go to the people who actually know

2382
01:21:57,430 --> 01:21:54,719
about it so yeah yeah

2383
01:22:00,310 --> 01:21:57,440
um all right moving back to hollywood uh

2384
01:22:02,310 --> 01:22:00,320
jason on facebook asks uh

2385
01:22:05,270 --> 01:22:02,320
what percentage of people in hollywood

2386
01:22:08,070 --> 01:22:05,280
and entertainment uh that you know

2387
01:22:08,950 --> 01:22:08,080
uh have talk about these things ufos and

2388
01:22:10,950 --> 01:22:08,960
stuff i mean

2389
01:22:11,990 --> 01:22:10,960
you're very visible and out there on the

2390
01:22:13,830 --> 01:22:12,000
topic but um

2391
01:22:15,590 --> 01:22:13,840
do you ever get [\h__\h] from people in the

2392
01:22:16,550 --> 01:22:15,600
entertainment industry about being into

2393
01:22:17,910 --> 01:22:16,560
this stuff or

2394
01:22:19,590 --> 01:22:17,920
anyone you can think of who you're

2395
01:22:21,830 --> 01:22:19,600
willing to out

2396
01:22:23,590 --> 01:22:21,840
on the show who's really interested in

2397
01:22:24,310 --> 01:22:23,600
this stuff yeah we're getting scandalous

2398
01:22:27,350 --> 01:22:24,320
here

2399
01:22:28,790 --> 01:22:27,360
feel free to not yeah i mean that's the

2400
01:22:29,350 --> 01:22:28,800
kind of thing you can't you can't do

2401
01:22:32,550 --> 01:22:29,360
unless

2402
01:22:35,830 --> 01:22:32,560
they are out with it you know but

2403
01:22:38,470 --> 01:22:35,840
um in that degree i

2404
01:22:39,910 --> 01:22:38,480
uh first of all i don't get ridiculed

2405
01:22:41,510 --> 01:22:39,920
within the community of

2406
01:22:43,350 --> 01:22:41,520
of hollywood or anything like that with

2407
01:22:45,350 --> 01:22:43,360
my beliefs and i get away with it

2408
01:22:47,510 --> 01:22:45,360
obviously because i'm a comedian i'm

2409
01:22:48,149 --> 01:22:47,520
weird i talk about weird stuff i do

2410
01:22:53,189 --> 01:22:48,159
weird

2411
01:22:56,229 --> 01:22:53,199
characters from other realms

2412
01:22:59,189 --> 01:22:56,239
uh so so that's okay i

2413
01:23:01,030 --> 01:22:59,199
you know um and in this day and age now

2414
01:23:03,990 --> 01:23:01,040
that it's more and more acceptable

2415
01:23:04,550 --> 01:23:04,000
uh the stigma is not attached to it um

2416
01:23:07,990 --> 01:23:04,560
it's

2417
01:23:11,510 --> 01:23:08,000
there

2418
01:23:13,669 --> 01:23:11,520
and some in some ways but um for me

2419
01:23:15,030 --> 01:23:13,679
uh because of the field of entertainment

2420
01:23:17,590 --> 01:23:15,040
i'm involved in

2421
01:23:18,629 --> 01:23:17,600
uh i'm not i'm yeah now when no one

2422
01:23:20,310 --> 01:23:18,639
points a finger or

2423
01:23:22,229 --> 01:23:20,320
or says anything behind my back at least

2424
01:23:24,470 --> 01:23:22,239
not not that i know of uh but

2425
01:23:25,830 --> 01:23:24,480
if i was in politics it'd be a different

2426
01:23:28,550 --> 01:23:25,840
story if i was a

2427
01:23:30,390 --> 01:23:28,560
uh a lecturer of some sort if i was

2428
01:23:32,070 --> 01:23:30,400
dealing with way more serious subject

2429
01:23:33,990 --> 01:23:32,080
matter about certain things

2430
01:23:36,149 --> 01:23:34,000
and then i had this as my hobby or had

2431
01:23:39,110 --> 01:23:36,159
this belief people would go

2432
01:23:39,830 --> 01:23:39,120
okay then because then you they worry

2433
01:23:41,189 --> 01:23:39,840
about you and

2434
01:23:43,270 --> 01:23:41,199
that that pisses me off because it

2435
01:23:44,709 --> 01:23:43,280
doesn't matter what you do uh

2436
01:23:46,629 --> 01:23:44,719
if you believe in this kind of stuff

2437
01:23:48,790 --> 01:23:46,639
that's okay and that should be okay

2438
01:23:50,709 --> 01:23:48,800
and you you have to sometimes separate

2439
01:23:52,149 --> 01:23:50,719
it from from your actual job

2440
01:23:54,470 --> 01:23:52,159
particularly if you're in some sort of

2441
01:23:57,590 --> 01:23:54,480
really serious kind of position

2442
01:24:01,110 --> 01:23:57,600
um but in my position which is

2443
01:24:04,310 --> 01:24:01,120
not serious uh it

2444
01:24:06,950 --> 01:24:04,320
runs hand in hand um so yeah now do i

2445
01:24:07,910 --> 01:24:06,960
do it does it come up much in in green

2446
01:24:11,510 --> 01:24:07,920
rooms or in

2447
01:24:12,070 --> 01:24:11,520
um uh trailers um of course now and

2448
01:24:14,870 --> 01:24:12,080
again

2449
01:24:16,070 --> 01:24:14,880
um and it's actually because people know

2450
01:24:17,910 --> 01:24:16,080
i'm into it they'll they'll

2451
01:24:19,510 --> 01:24:17,920
get the courage to bring it up or said

2452
01:24:21,189 --> 01:24:19,520
i'm into this or i've seen this what do

2453
01:24:23,030 --> 01:24:21,199
you think rhys and i'll and i'll

2454
01:24:24,470 --> 01:24:23,040
have a discussion with them and i think

2455
01:24:25,750 --> 01:24:24,480
that's really cool so that's one of the

2456
01:24:27,590 --> 01:24:25,760
reasons i actually

2457
01:24:29,590 --> 01:24:27,600
i'm quite open about it because it is

2458
01:24:30,390 --> 01:24:29,600
the unknown uh no one's really got the

2459
01:24:32,390 --> 01:24:30,400
answers

2460
01:24:33,510 --> 01:24:32,400
apart from some people who like

2461
01:24:35,510 --> 01:24:33,520
contactees who

2462
01:24:36,950 --> 01:24:35,520
who may who strongly believe that

2463
01:24:38,790 --> 01:24:36,960
they've seen these certain things or

2464
01:24:40,390 --> 01:24:38,800
have had these certain experiences that

2465
01:24:41,189 --> 01:24:40,400
you know that that's a different thing

2466
01:24:44,229 --> 01:24:41,199
again

2467
01:24:45,990 --> 01:24:44,239
i'm not one of those but all i can do is

2468
01:24:48,950 --> 01:24:46,000
uh is is chat and

2469
01:24:50,310 --> 01:24:48,960
and um hypothesize and theorize and i

2470
01:24:52,390 --> 01:24:50,320
think that's one really

2471
01:24:53,350 --> 01:24:52,400
fun thing that's the coolest thing about

2472
01:24:55,750 --> 01:24:53,360
this field

2473
01:24:57,189 --> 01:24:55,760
is that it's just it's just folk talking

2474
01:24:59,350 --> 01:24:57,199
it's like um

2475
01:25:01,030 --> 01:24:59,360
and it's and it's uh getting our brains

2476
01:25:02,310 --> 01:25:01,040
moving and it's it's opening the little

2477
01:25:04,550 --> 01:25:02,320
doors in our brains and

2478
01:25:05,750 --> 01:25:04,560
zapping each other with these ideas and

2479
01:25:08,629 --> 01:25:05,760
and through that

2480
01:25:09,669 --> 01:25:08,639
finding some sort of disclosure as well

2481
01:25:13,350 --> 01:25:09,679
so um

2482
01:25:15,590 --> 01:25:13,360
yeah or not you know i i always

2483
01:25:16,390 --> 01:25:15,600
i always think the journey is much more

2484
01:25:18,310 --> 01:25:16,400
rewarding yeah

2485
01:25:19,669 --> 01:25:18,320
yeah i almost don't want the answers

2486
01:25:20,629 --> 01:25:19,679
reese i think we're going to be like

2487
01:25:22,870 --> 01:25:20,639
disappointed

2488
01:25:23,830 --> 01:25:22,880
if we do figure out you know and it's

2489
01:25:27,030 --> 01:25:23,840
actually

2490
01:25:28,870 --> 01:25:27,040
it's out that it's yeah i know

2491
01:25:31,110 --> 01:25:28,880
um but us from the future is still going

2492
01:25:32,790 --> 01:25:31,120
to be exciting but you still

2493
01:25:34,950 --> 01:25:32,800
when you you know when you when you see

2494
01:25:35,910 --> 01:25:34,960
these and and one of the things that's

2495
01:25:38,070 --> 01:25:35,920
got in the way

2496
01:25:39,750 --> 01:25:38,080
is pop culture in a major way and i'm

2497
01:25:40,229 --> 01:25:39,760
i'm partly to blame of that obviously

2498
01:25:43,590 --> 01:25:40,239
but i

2499
01:25:45,590 --> 01:25:43,600
little green men and things like that

2500
01:25:47,510 --> 01:25:45,600
the movies of the 50s the source of men

2501
01:25:50,070 --> 01:25:47,520
from mars that kind of stuff's

2502
01:25:50,950 --> 01:25:50,080
it's it's muddied it all up and then

2503
01:25:52,390 --> 01:25:50,960
people are

2504
01:25:53,669 --> 01:25:52,400
picturing those things and then when

2505
01:25:54,870 --> 01:25:53,679
they think they see things they're

2506
01:25:58,390 --> 01:25:54,880
seeing those things as well

2507
01:26:01,430 --> 01:25:58,400
and and so it's the

2508
01:26:03,590 --> 01:26:01,440
it's the um that mixed with the

2509
01:26:05,189 --> 01:26:03,600
reality of the fact that maybe they

2510
01:26:06,629 --> 01:26:05,199
there are these beings with the almond

2511
01:26:08,950 --> 01:26:06,639
shaped eyes and stuff because they are

2512
01:26:13,430 --> 01:26:08,960
so they're so prevalent in people's

2513
01:26:15,750 --> 01:26:13,440
uh um visual memories and things so

2514
01:26:17,510 --> 01:26:15,760
it's it's a muddy old river isn't it

2515
01:26:20,310 --> 01:26:17,520
isn't it right

2516
01:26:20,709 --> 01:26:20,320
it is there's days i wake up and i'm

2517
01:26:23,030 --> 01:26:20,719
like

2518
01:26:24,709 --> 01:26:23,040
why why am i doing this but yeah

2519
01:26:26,390 --> 01:26:24,719
conversations like this where we can

2520
01:26:27,830 --> 01:26:26,400
really stretch out and like like you

2521
01:26:30,149 --> 01:26:27,840
said hypothesize

2522
01:26:31,430 --> 01:26:30,159
yeah you know um any time one of these

2523
01:26:33,910 --> 01:26:31,440
ufo people

2524
01:26:35,270 --> 01:26:33,920
says they have the answers and they know

2525
01:26:36,149 --> 01:26:35,280
what's right and what's wrong that's

2526
01:26:38,709 --> 01:26:36,159
what i run

2527
01:26:40,070 --> 01:26:38,719
for that yes i'm like come on man or or

2528
01:26:41,830 --> 01:26:40,080
woman let's be honest

2529
01:26:44,070 --> 01:26:41,840
those are the ones you sometimes see at

2530
01:26:45,990 --> 01:26:44,080
those conferences as well they do stand

2531
01:26:48,229 --> 01:26:46,000
in front of a massive crowd and they say

2532
01:26:50,390 --> 01:26:48,239
right well this is what the story is

2533
01:26:51,990 --> 01:26:50,400
i've been in contact with these aliens

2534
01:26:52,790 --> 01:26:52,000
i've done this i've worked on these

2535
01:26:55,590 --> 01:26:52,800
products

2536
01:26:56,070 --> 01:26:55,600
with them um you know and that and uh

2537
01:26:57,830 --> 01:26:56,080
and that's

2538
01:26:59,430 --> 01:26:57,840
you know bob lazar's not quite at that

2539
01:27:02,070 --> 01:26:59,440
level he's he's i put him slightly

2540
01:27:05,750 --> 01:27:02,080
differently to that because

2541
01:27:08,470 --> 01:27:05,760
he's he's not uh admitting working with

2542
01:27:09,350 --> 01:27:08,480
aliens or things like that uh he's he's

2543
01:27:14,550 --> 01:27:09,360
technology

2544
01:27:15,669 --> 01:27:14,560
yeah it's it's the grain of salt thing

2545
01:27:17,270 --> 01:27:15,679
and it's the

2546
01:27:18,790 --> 01:27:17,280
it's there's such a thing as there's the

2547
01:27:21,510 --> 01:27:18,800
want to believe and then there's

2548
01:27:22,550 --> 01:27:21,520
that that that person will want to be to

2549
01:27:24,149 --> 01:27:22,560
be too strong

2550
01:27:25,830 --> 01:27:24,159
so you've got to pull your wants back

2551
01:27:27,910 --> 01:27:25,840
because if you if you

2552
01:27:29,270 --> 01:27:27,920
start sprinting towards that finish line

2553
01:27:31,270 --> 01:27:29,280
with that big want

2554
01:27:33,110 --> 01:27:31,280
tattoo on your forehead you know you're

2555
01:27:34,709 --> 01:27:33,120
going to hit some false finish line

2556
01:27:36,229 --> 01:27:34,719
and fall over and start opening the

2557
01:27:37,990 --> 01:27:36,239
champagne and then people are going to

2558
01:27:40,229 --> 01:27:38,000
be around you going dude you can't be on

2559
01:27:44,070 --> 01:27:40,239
the wrong track

2560
01:27:47,189 --> 01:27:44,080
that is the perfect analogy there's

2561
01:27:49,669 --> 01:27:47,199
interview over later there we go

2562
01:27:51,350 --> 01:27:49,679
um awesome just a couple more here my

2563
01:27:53,189 --> 01:27:51,360
man oh this is bringing us to new

2564
01:27:54,070 --> 01:27:53,199
zealand i'd love to get your thoughts on

2565
01:27:56,070 --> 01:27:54,080
this um

2566
01:27:57,590 --> 01:27:56,080
amanda on facebook says do you know

2567
01:28:00,070 --> 01:27:57,600
about the airline pilot

2568
01:28:01,270 --> 01:28:00,080
bruce cathy and his theories on the

2569
01:28:03,430 --> 01:28:01,280
world grid

2570
01:28:05,430 --> 01:28:03,440
um yeah is this guy have you heard about

2571
01:28:08,870 --> 01:28:05,440
him in your your neck of the woods

2572
01:28:11,990 --> 01:28:08,880
the world it rings a bell but no i'm i'm

2573
01:28:14,950 --> 01:28:12,000
i'm not sure yeah okay

2574
01:28:15,510 --> 01:28:14,960
i have to look it up yeah yeah um he's

2575
01:28:17,189 --> 01:28:15,520
got some

2576
01:28:18,790 --> 01:28:17,199
i've never heard of him either he's so

2577
01:28:19,430 --> 01:28:18,800
like you're not alone in this one okay

2578
01:28:21,750 --> 01:28:19,440
um

2579
01:28:23,750 --> 01:28:21,760
but world grid okay she gave some

2580
01:28:25,189 --> 01:28:23,760
information here his central thesis was

2581
01:28:27,270 --> 01:28:25,199
that he could use

2582
01:28:28,470 --> 01:28:27,280
mathematics to describe a grid-like

2583
01:28:31,910 --> 01:28:28,480
pattern on earth

2584
01:28:35,030 --> 01:28:31,920
that powers flying saucers and controls

2585
01:28:37,110 --> 01:28:35,040
the dates and places where nuclear bombs

2586
01:28:39,350 --> 01:28:37,120
can function that's interesting we hear

2587
01:28:41,350 --> 01:28:39,360
a lot about ufos being cited over

2588
01:28:43,430 --> 01:28:41,360
nuclear facilities and whatnot

2589
01:28:45,910 --> 01:28:43,440
so this dude in new zealand apparently

2590
01:28:46,950 --> 01:28:45,920
thinks there is a grid that these ufos

2591
01:28:48,310 --> 01:28:46,960
are following

2592
01:28:49,990 --> 01:28:48,320
uh when it comes to our nuclear

2593
01:28:52,709 --> 01:28:50,000
capabilities and maybe

2594
01:28:53,270 --> 01:28:52,719
it's powering the flying saucers yeah

2595
01:28:55,990 --> 01:28:53,280
what do you think

2596
01:28:57,750 --> 01:28:56,000
about that that's interesting i mean

2597
01:29:01,110 --> 01:28:57,760
when it comes to grids and

2598
01:29:01,990 --> 01:29:01,120
the earth i'm into the uh uh the

2599
01:29:07,189 --> 01:29:02,000
magnetic

2600
01:29:09,110 --> 01:29:07,199
throughout the throughout the planet

2601
01:29:10,470 --> 01:29:09,120
where people see paranormal activity and

2602
01:29:13,590 --> 01:29:10,480
i think there's a big

2603
01:29:15,189 --> 01:29:13,600
uh there should be more focus on on that

2604
01:29:16,950 --> 01:29:15,199
situation for example things like

2605
01:29:19,030 --> 01:29:16,960
skinwalker ranch where there's a lot of

2606
01:29:21,350 --> 01:29:19,040
magnetic situations going on there and

2607
01:29:22,629 --> 01:29:21,360
then there's you know as a cesspool of

2608
01:29:24,709 --> 01:29:22,639
paranormal activity

2609
01:29:25,830 --> 01:29:24,719
and not just ufos but cryptids and

2610
01:29:29,110 --> 01:29:25,840
things like that which

2611
01:29:30,070 --> 01:29:29,120
gets me so excited because i i love to

2612
01:29:32,550 --> 01:29:30,080
involve

2613
01:29:33,830 --> 01:29:32,560
uh multi-dimensional creatures and

2614
01:29:36,709 --> 01:29:33,840
things like that not just

2615
01:29:37,669 --> 01:29:36,719
lights in the sky because uh well a it's

2616
01:29:39,270 --> 01:29:37,679
it's more fun

2617
01:29:42,310 --> 01:29:39,280
and b there's got to be a connection

2618
01:29:44,149 --> 01:29:42,320
there and um being into cryptozoology

2619
01:29:46,709 --> 01:29:44,159
you know i i like the idea of

2620
01:29:48,950 --> 01:29:46,719
sasquatches and and um

2621
01:29:49,910 --> 01:29:48,960
various other creatures like nessie and

2622
01:29:52,629 --> 01:29:49,920
things that

2623
01:29:54,390 --> 01:29:52,639
uh have been seen and why are they seen

2624
01:29:55,189 --> 01:29:54,400
and are they really there or are they

2625
01:29:59,030 --> 01:29:55,199
just

2626
01:30:01,990 --> 01:29:59,040
uh appearing from uh another dimension

2627
01:30:02,709 --> 01:30:02,000
uh because of uh a time shift or because

2628
01:30:05,830 --> 01:30:02,719
of the

2629
01:30:07,110 --> 01:30:05,840
magnetic anomaly in that area that at a

2630
01:30:09,350 --> 01:30:07,120
certain time of day

2631
01:30:11,590 --> 01:30:09,360
or a certain uh the way that the the

2632
01:30:13,830 --> 01:30:11,600
earth is placed at that particular time

2633
01:30:15,270 --> 01:30:13,840
uh a vision uh happens and it could be

2634
01:30:17,270 --> 01:30:15,280
not even of the now could be of a

2635
01:30:19,350 --> 01:30:17,280
different timeline could be of the past

2636
01:30:20,870 --> 01:30:19,360
but it's a because we're living in a

2637
01:30:23,430 --> 01:30:20,880
multi-dimensional universe

2638
01:30:25,030 --> 01:30:23,440
it is it is here but it's not here and

2639
01:30:26,070 --> 01:30:25,040
so there's that kind of that kind of

2640
01:30:30,229 --> 01:30:26,080
talk which which

2641
01:30:32,470 --> 01:30:30,239
which i think uh is fun um yeah

2642
01:30:34,229 --> 01:30:32,480
yeah so so the gridline stuff yeah i

2643
01:30:37,270 --> 01:30:34,239
i'll look into that um

2644
01:30:39,350 --> 01:30:37,280
i also really like the idea uh that the

2645
01:30:40,390 --> 01:30:39,360
extraterrestrials always come in contact

2646
01:30:42,790 --> 01:30:40,400
with us around the

2647
01:30:43,990 --> 01:30:42,800
nuclear situation and that they are

2648
01:30:45,590 --> 01:30:44,000
protecting us or

2649
01:30:47,750 --> 01:30:45,600
you know and then there's the footage of

2650
01:30:50,629 --> 01:30:47,760
the um of them zapping

2651
01:30:51,510 --> 01:30:50,639
the uh the nuclear uh missile that was

2652
01:30:53,590 --> 01:30:51,520
up in space and

2653
01:30:55,590 --> 01:30:53,600
and and things like that and and just

2654
01:30:57,669 --> 01:30:55,600
the contact around around bases

2655
01:30:59,110 --> 01:30:57,679
rendering forest falls into that one as

2656
01:31:00,830 --> 01:30:59,120
well i think in some ways

2657
01:31:03,189 --> 01:31:00,840
although that's another mystery again

2658
01:31:04,790 --> 01:31:03,199
because uh what the hell was that craft

2659
01:31:07,270 --> 01:31:04,800
just sitting in the forest for for no

2660
01:31:10,310 --> 01:31:07,280
apparent reason

2661
01:31:10,709 --> 01:31:10,320
um by the way didn't have little dudes

2662
01:31:12,629 --> 01:31:10,719
in it

2663
01:31:14,550 --> 01:31:12,639
uh so i'm still as we're talking here

2664
01:31:16,229 --> 01:31:14,560
i'm still thinking more and more like

2665
01:31:17,910 --> 01:31:16,239
there isn't little dudes in these things

2666
01:31:20,310 --> 01:31:17,920
because uh

2667
01:31:21,189 --> 01:31:20,320
uh why why would they need to why would

2668
01:31:24,709 --> 01:31:21,199
they need to be

2669
01:31:27,830 --> 01:31:24,719
looking through the wind

2670
01:31:29,350 --> 01:31:27,840
down going okay just checking

2671
01:31:31,189 --> 01:31:29,360
look we've been seeing quick get out of

2672
01:31:33,110 --> 01:31:31,199
here and i just don't

2673
01:31:34,790 --> 01:31:33,120
it just doesn't seem it doesn't seem

2674
01:31:36,709 --> 01:31:34,800
right but it's still worth

2675
01:31:39,110 --> 01:31:36,719
uh talking about because then people who

2676
01:31:40,709 --> 01:31:39,120
have havocs who have had experiences

2677
01:31:42,950 --> 01:31:40,719
you know swear till they're blue in the

2678
01:31:45,430 --> 01:31:42,960
face that they have been taken up

2679
01:31:46,709 --> 01:31:45,440
and have con and have been and have uh

2680
01:31:48,229 --> 01:31:46,719
talked to these beings

2681
01:31:49,750 --> 01:31:48,239
uh through their through their mind and

2682
01:31:53,350 --> 01:31:49,760
what have you so you know

2683
01:31:55,350 --> 01:31:53,360
get that a bag of salt and and and uh

2684
01:31:56,470 --> 01:31:55,360
and join in on that discussion

2685
01:32:00,870 --> 01:31:56,480
everywhere

2686
01:32:01,510 --> 01:32:00,880
yeah well maybe salt me uh make me salty

2687
01:32:02,950 --> 01:32:01,520
um

2688
01:32:05,990 --> 01:32:02,960
that's such a good point though the

2689
01:32:08,229 --> 01:32:06,000
whole idea of um you know

2690
01:32:09,110 --> 01:32:08,239
maybe there it's their version of drones

2691
01:32:11,669 --> 01:32:09,120
we send

2692
01:32:12,629 --> 01:32:11,679
unmanned things to other planets why

2693
01:32:16,070 --> 01:32:12,639
would you

2694
01:32:18,229 --> 01:32:16,080
risk one of your beings lives or

2695
01:32:20,149 --> 01:32:18,239
you know look at our fighter jets these

2696
01:32:21,590 --> 01:32:20,159
things cost millions of dollars so we're

2697
01:32:22,229 --> 01:32:21,600
not going to risk putting a pilot in

2698
01:32:25,030 --> 01:32:22,239
there

2699
01:32:26,070 --> 01:32:25,040
and the crashing on another planet until

2700
01:32:28,149 --> 01:32:26,080
we're sure

2701
01:32:29,750 --> 01:32:28,159
that we're going to be safe and look if

2702
01:32:31,669 --> 01:32:29,760
if roswell

2703
01:32:33,350 --> 01:32:31,679
taught us anything they're not safe

2704
01:32:34,870 --> 01:32:33,360
they're crashing so but i was just going

2705
01:32:36,550 --> 01:32:34,880
to say that's where

2706
01:32:38,870 --> 01:32:36,560
when roswell comes in and then you think

2707
01:32:40,790 --> 01:32:38,880
well okay so there was there was

2708
01:32:41,910 --> 01:32:40,800
creatures inside there if we if we go

2709
01:32:43,669 --> 01:32:41,920
with the folks

2710
01:32:45,350 --> 01:32:43,679
yeah yeah but that kind of spins that

2711
01:32:48,470 --> 01:32:45,360
out of a little bit of context

2712
01:32:50,550 --> 01:32:48,480
out of out of uh uh

2713
01:32:52,790 --> 01:32:50,560
focus on what we're trying to get to so

2714
01:32:56,070 --> 01:32:52,800
it's it's once again the river's muddy

2715
01:32:56,550 --> 01:32:56,080
you know yeah it's frustrating yeah for

2716
01:32:59,830 --> 01:32:56,560
sure

2717
01:33:03,110 --> 01:32:59,840
every time we think we solve it

2718
01:33:05,430 --> 01:33:03,120
um all right the signals on twitter asks

2719
01:33:07,590 --> 01:33:05,440
love your work reese can you tell us

2720
01:33:10,950 --> 01:33:07,600
about your favorite ufo case

2721
01:33:13,990 --> 01:33:10,960
of all time rindelsham is it

2722
01:33:14,870 --> 01:33:14,000
okay yeah renders from forest uh just

2723
01:33:17,430 --> 01:33:14,880
because

2724
01:33:19,189 --> 01:33:17,440
uh you know it's out of the states and

2725
01:33:19,910 --> 01:33:19,199
there's so many in the states and i know

2726
01:33:22,870 --> 01:33:19,920
there's there's

2727
01:33:24,310 --> 01:33:22,880
ones in all over the world but that one

2728
01:33:25,910 --> 01:33:24,320
for me it's it's got a

2729
01:33:27,510 --> 01:33:25,920
you know heavy american involvement

2730
01:33:29,750 --> 01:33:27,520
obviously it was those those two

2731
01:33:32,950 --> 01:33:29,760
american bases that were in

2732
01:33:37,430 --> 01:33:32,960
uh in the u in the uk at the time

2733
01:33:40,070 --> 01:33:37,440
but uh i love it because um

2734
01:33:41,910 --> 01:33:40,080
there's so much going on with it and the

2735
01:33:43,510 --> 01:33:41,920
craft was right there they actually went

2736
01:33:46,790 --> 01:33:43,520
right up to it and they touched it

2737
01:33:50,390 --> 01:33:46,800
it had like hieroglyphic uh signs on it

2738
01:33:52,790 --> 01:33:50,400
it's just got so much um

2739
01:33:53,590 --> 01:33:52,800
steven spielberg sort of george lucas

2740
01:33:56,629 --> 01:33:53,600
aspect

2741
01:33:57,830 --> 01:33:56,639
to it um yet yet i believe it it is

2742
01:33:59,990 --> 01:33:57,840
definitely real

2743
01:34:02,470 --> 01:34:00,000
and then there's the whole uh issue with

2744
01:34:05,350 --> 01:34:02,480
the if you read into this case with the

2745
01:34:06,629 --> 01:34:05,360
um one of the chaps getting uh getting

2746
01:34:08,709 --> 01:34:06,639
the download

2747
01:34:10,870 --> 01:34:08,719
writing all those binary codes in his

2748
01:34:12,950 --> 01:34:10,880
notebook and then

2749
01:34:14,310 --> 01:34:12,960
and then the translation of what that

2750
01:34:17,669 --> 01:34:14,320
came out to be

2751
01:34:20,790 --> 01:34:17,679
uh which does uh feature forth

2752
01:34:21,590 --> 01:34:20,800
uh the hypothesis of uh us from the

2753
01:34:23,510 --> 01:34:21,600
future

2754
01:34:24,629 --> 01:34:23,520
things like that it's just the the

2755
01:34:27,110 --> 01:34:24,639
mysteries that uh

2756
01:34:27,750 --> 01:34:27,120
the unraveling of that one is is really

2757
01:34:30,149 --> 01:34:27,760
cool

2758
01:34:31,270 --> 01:34:30,159
because there are so many cases and a

2759
01:34:32,870 --> 01:34:31,280
lot of them are

2760
01:34:35,270 --> 01:34:32,880
just sightings or being chased by

2761
01:34:38,550 --> 01:34:35,280
something or a light in the sky

2762
01:34:40,470 --> 01:34:38,560
or a um you know a uh the phoenix lights

2763
01:34:42,070 --> 01:34:40,480
is a really cool one because it was just

2764
01:34:43,350 --> 01:34:42,080
the amount of eyewitnesses and you've

2765
01:34:46,709 --> 01:34:43,360
got those

2766
01:34:51,270 --> 01:34:46,719
boomerang shaped craft and um

2767
01:34:53,270 --> 01:34:51,280
there is no kind of uh

2768
01:34:55,189 --> 01:34:53,280
i find not believing in that one to be

2769
01:34:55,750 --> 01:34:55,199
hard uh you know it's not a bunch of

2770
01:34:58,790 --> 01:34:55,760
flares

2771
01:35:00,470 --> 01:34:58,800
there was there was just so anything

2772
01:35:02,790 --> 01:35:00,480
that stacked with a lot of evidence

2773
01:35:03,510 --> 01:35:02,800
first of all are the greatest cases but

2774
01:35:06,390 --> 01:35:03,520
anything that

2775
01:35:07,669 --> 01:35:06,400
uh is more than just uh lights in the

2776
01:35:11,030 --> 01:35:07,679
sky is that

2777
01:35:14,310 --> 01:35:11,040
a tangible um uh

2778
01:35:15,990 --> 01:35:14,320
kind of physical effect on people uh

2779
01:35:17,430 --> 01:35:16,000
really pricks my ears up and makes me

2780
01:35:21,270 --> 01:35:17,440
even more excited so

2781
01:35:23,270 --> 01:35:21,280
yeah rindelsham's um up there for me

2782
01:35:24,550 --> 01:35:23,280
awesome i would have to agree i mean you

2783
01:35:27,750 --> 01:35:24,560
even had nick pope

2784
01:35:31,109 --> 01:35:27,760
on your show as well the former mod

2785
01:35:32,310 --> 01:35:31,119
molder as it were and uh physical

2786
01:35:34,310 --> 01:35:32,320
effects too man i

2787
01:35:36,149 --> 01:35:34,320
i mean one of those guys had like heart

2788
01:35:39,030 --> 01:35:36,159
failure that they discovered

2789
01:35:39,830 --> 01:35:39,040
came from being around radiation at this

2790
01:35:41,510 --> 01:35:39,840
ufo event

2791
01:35:43,590 --> 01:35:41,520
and then the government paid his health

2792
01:35:45,189 --> 01:35:43,600
bills and said it was directly connected

2793
01:35:47,189 --> 01:35:45,199
to this ufo event so that's

2794
01:35:49,350 --> 01:35:47,199
insane to me you know that yeah this

2795
01:35:52,070 --> 01:35:49,360
guy's being covered by the va

2796
01:35:53,430 --> 01:35:52,080
and because of a ufo event like it just

2797
01:35:56,550 --> 01:35:53,440
blows my mind

2798
01:35:56,870 --> 01:35:56,560
they the the the danger that comes with

2799
01:35:59,430 --> 01:35:56,880
the

2800
01:36:00,629 --> 01:35:59,440
negative uh magnetic negative energy and

2801
01:36:03,669 --> 01:36:00,639
stuff that that

2802
01:36:05,030 --> 01:36:03,679
that we get from these things uh that's

2803
01:36:08,310 --> 01:36:05,040
time and time again

2804
01:36:10,229 --> 01:36:08,320
uh brought up uh yes it's really scary

2805
01:36:11,350 --> 01:36:10,239
and you think what the the effects that

2806
01:36:12,950 --> 01:36:11,360
these things have on you

2807
01:36:14,550 --> 01:36:12,960
so when and i often think about that

2808
01:36:15,830 --> 01:36:14,560
when i think i'd love to see one of

2809
01:36:17,109 --> 01:36:15,840
these things up close to whatever and

2810
01:36:18,790 --> 01:36:17,119
then you think well hang on

2811
01:36:20,550 --> 01:36:18,800
people who have done that have had

2812
01:36:23,669 --> 01:36:20,560
really bad effects for the rest of their

2813
01:36:25,270 --> 01:36:23,679
lives and stuff so there's that

2814
01:36:27,669 --> 01:36:25,280
that's where the potential threat comes

2815
01:36:30,310 --> 01:36:27,679
in you know right yeah

2816
01:36:33,350 --> 01:36:30,320
yeah and it's it might not even be their

2817
01:36:34,870 --> 01:36:33,360
intention they just don't know

2818
01:36:37,030 --> 01:36:34,880
they come through with energy that we

2819
01:36:39,590 --> 01:36:37,040
can't suss out that's not good for us

2820
01:36:40,390 --> 01:36:39,600
maybe that's why they're not coming to

2821
01:36:43,669 --> 01:36:40,400
us

2822
01:36:46,550 --> 01:36:43,679
uh more of uh more

2823
01:36:46,950 --> 01:36:46,560
more readily because yeah yeah i know

2824
01:36:50,070 --> 01:36:46,960
that

2825
01:36:51,189 --> 01:36:50,080
they they they um they will have a

2826
01:36:53,510 --> 01:36:51,199
diverse

2827
01:36:54,709 --> 01:36:53,520
uh adverse i should say effect on us as

2828
01:36:57,189 --> 01:36:54,719
humans

2829
01:36:58,870 --> 01:36:57,199
yeah i i think yeah again i think it

2830
01:36:59,270 --> 01:36:58,880
comes back to us having more to do with

2831
01:37:03,430 --> 01:36:59,280
it

2832
01:37:04,149 --> 01:37:03,440
pilots you know if these ufos may not

2833
01:37:07,510 --> 01:37:04,159
potentially

2834
01:37:09,510 --> 01:37:07,520
uh be malevolent but how our pilots

2835
01:37:11,910 --> 01:37:09,520
react to them or how they

2836
01:37:13,590 --> 01:37:11,920
deal with the situation in the moment uh

2837
01:37:14,149 --> 01:37:13,600
could be a threat like you know they

2838
01:37:17,990 --> 01:37:14,159
could

2839
01:37:20,149 --> 01:37:18,000
know they shot at one of these things

2840
01:37:21,510 --> 01:37:20,159
that was just there to be like hey we're

2841
01:37:23,430 --> 01:37:21,520
just checking out like we've got the

2842
01:37:25,510 --> 01:37:23,440
cure for cancer if you want it

2843
01:37:26,709 --> 01:37:25,520
but or you could just blow us up i don't

2844
01:37:29,109 --> 01:37:26,719
know i don't know

2845
01:37:30,629 --> 01:37:29,119
yeah it's interesting so here's our last

2846
01:37:31,590 --> 01:37:30,639
listener question reese i think you'll

2847
01:37:34,070 --> 01:37:31,600
like this one

2848
01:37:35,990 --> 01:37:34,080
if you could visit the location of any

2849
01:37:38,149 --> 01:37:36,000
ufo flap sighting

2850
01:37:39,270 --> 01:37:38,159
landing what would it be what's your

2851
01:37:40,709 --> 01:37:39,280
dream case

2852
01:37:42,550 --> 01:37:40,719
other than randall shame i know we just

2853
01:37:43,830 --> 01:37:42,560
covered that if it's rendelsham like

2854
01:37:45,910 --> 01:37:43,840
that's your answer but yeah

2855
01:37:47,830 --> 01:37:45,920
any other dream cases you wish you could

2856
01:37:49,830 --> 01:37:47,840
be personally involved with

2857
01:37:50,950 --> 01:37:49,840
i would love to and i know there's an

2858
01:37:54,310 --> 01:37:50,960
expedition

2859
01:37:55,189 --> 01:37:54,320
uh that's underway uh in the planning

2860
01:37:58,229 --> 01:37:55,199
stages

2861
01:37:59,030 --> 01:37:58,239
uh and that's off the coast catalina

2862
01:38:02,870 --> 01:37:59,040
island

2863
01:38:03,590 --> 01:38:02,880
where there is supposedly a uso base

2864
01:38:05,430 --> 01:38:03,600
under the sea

2865
01:38:07,109 --> 01:38:05,440
i believe there could be something there

2866
01:38:08,070 --> 01:38:07,119
the amount of sightings that we have off

2867
01:38:10,310 --> 01:38:08,080
the coast

2868
01:38:12,070 --> 01:38:10,320
of california here that seems to be

2869
01:38:14,390 --> 01:38:12,080
centered around that area

2870
01:38:16,229 --> 01:38:14,400
and and i think they're going out uh

2871
01:38:17,590 --> 01:38:16,239
with it with a research ship i'm a big

2872
01:38:20,070 --> 01:38:17,600
fan of research ships

2873
01:38:21,109 --> 01:38:20,080
uh from john cousteau and uh you know

2874
01:38:23,750 --> 01:38:21,119
the life aquatic

2875
01:38:24,550 --> 01:38:23,760
i want to be on one of these things um

2876
01:38:26,550 --> 01:38:24,560
and

2877
01:38:28,550 --> 01:38:26,560
so i think that's something i'd like to

2878
01:38:30,310 --> 01:38:28,560
do is to go out to sea

2879
01:38:31,830 --> 01:38:30,320
and because i think some of the big

2880
01:38:36,149 --> 01:38:31,840
answers that we haven't

2881
01:38:39,830 --> 01:38:36,159
uh grasped yet are under the oceans

2882
01:38:42,790 --> 01:38:39,840
because what a what a place to hide uh

2883
01:38:44,870 --> 01:38:42,800
you know there's more down there i think

2884
01:38:45,590 --> 01:38:44,880
that's a mystery than up in our skies

2885
01:38:47,510 --> 01:38:45,600
for sure

2886
01:38:49,030 --> 01:38:47,520
i think so and and and things are coming

2887
01:38:52,070 --> 01:38:49,040
out of the sea that's and and

2888
01:38:54,310 --> 01:38:52,080
when you're out at sea to any extent

2889
01:38:56,310 --> 01:38:54,320
away from land you can see the absolute

2890
01:38:59,830 --> 01:38:56,320
vastness of the ocean

2891
01:39:01,590 --> 01:38:59,840
and just to see a little blop come out

2892
01:39:03,270 --> 01:39:01,600
um no one would notice it you know a

2893
01:39:03,830 --> 01:39:03,280
little these tiny things that might come

2894
01:39:07,030 --> 01:39:03,840
out

2895
01:39:08,790 --> 01:39:07,040
to survey to uh these these orbs these

2896
01:39:12,149 --> 01:39:08,800
craft whatever they are

2897
01:39:15,350 --> 01:39:12,159
um a perfect place to hide and so i

2898
01:39:19,750 --> 01:39:15,360
wish a lot of money went into um

2899
01:39:23,189 --> 01:39:19,760
creating some sort of nemo

2900
01:39:25,910 --> 01:39:23,199
type submarine

2901
01:39:26,470 --> 01:39:25,920
submersible research craft that could go

2902
01:39:30,470 --> 01:39:26,480
on top

2903
01:39:33,669 --> 01:39:30,480
and underneath um or both um yeah

2904
01:39:36,870 --> 01:39:33,679
and and search our oceans uh

2905
01:39:40,070 --> 01:39:36,880
for for not only atlantis but

2906
01:39:41,189 --> 01:39:40,080
uh but the uso bases that might be

2907
01:39:43,990 --> 01:39:41,199
underneath the seas

2908
01:39:45,750 --> 01:39:44,000
that that would be super cool awesome

2909
01:39:48,470 --> 01:39:45,760
well hey full disclosure man

2910
01:39:50,390 --> 01:39:48,480
um i am one of the media reps for that

2911
01:39:52,229 --> 01:39:50,400
expedition you're talking wow

2912
01:39:53,590 --> 01:39:52,239
so i will uh put you in touch with those

2913
01:39:55,109 --> 01:39:53,600
people and hopefully we can get you out

2914
01:39:57,189 --> 01:39:55,119
to catalina island i mean

2915
01:39:59,030 --> 01:39:57,199
you're not that far away if i'm mistaken

2916
01:40:03,750 --> 01:39:59,040
well i've got the binoculars man so

2917
01:40:04,149 --> 01:40:03,760
uh dude you are ready to go i'm ready to

2918
01:40:06,709 --> 01:40:04,159
go

2919
01:40:08,229 --> 01:40:06,719
i'll grab your scuba gear i get my scuba

2920
01:40:12,070 --> 01:40:08,239
gear and my drink bottle

2921
01:40:13,990 --> 01:40:12,080
and uh my flippers and i am there my man

2922
01:40:15,270 --> 01:40:14,000
ah love it love it we're gonna make it

2923
01:40:18,310 --> 01:40:15,280
happen for sure

2924
01:40:19,910 --> 01:40:18,320
um well wrapping things up here rhys man

2925
01:40:22,390 --> 01:40:19,920
thank you so much for all your time

2926
01:40:24,629 --> 01:40:22,400
we've been almost going for two hours i

2927
01:40:25,990 --> 01:40:24,639
really appreciate this um tell us a

2928
01:40:27,669 --> 01:40:26,000
little about you've spoken about it um

2929
01:40:28,310 --> 01:40:27,679
throughout the interview but the cryptid

2930
01:40:29,669 --> 01:40:28,320
factor

2931
01:40:31,510 --> 01:40:29,679
you uh i know you're gonna be having

2932
01:40:33,910 --> 01:40:31,520
some exciting stuff going on with that

2933
01:40:34,950 --> 01:40:33,920
soon um what is the cryptid factor who

2934
01:40:36,550 --> 01:40:34,960
do you do that with

2935
01:40:39,270 --> 01:40:36,560
and yeah give us a little rundown of

2936
01:40:43,030 --> 01:40:39,280
that so that is my podcast uh

2937
01:40:45,030 --> 01:40:43,040
with buttons and dan schreiber and it uh

2938
01:40:46,310 --> 01:40:45,040
it is about cryptozoology first and

2939
01:40:48,470 --> 01:40:46,320
foremost but

2940
01:40:50,950 --> 01:40:48,480
because the stories uh eyewitness

2941
01:40:53,030 --> 01:40:50,960
reports and

2942
01:40:54,629 --> 01:40:53,040
news relating to that subject matter

2943
01:40:56,550 --> 01:40:54,639
isn't coming in thick and fast every

2944
01:40:59,830 --> 01:40:56,560
five minutes

2945
01:41:02,070 --> 01:40:59,840
we also deal with uh weekly world weird

2946
01:41:03,430 --> 01:41:02,080
news which is one of our big segments so

2947
01:41:07,030 --> 01:41:03,440
we

2948
01:41:10,229 --> 01:41:07,040
that is happening

2949
01:41:13,030 --> 01:41:10,239
on the earth uh on a weekly basis and

2950
01:41:13,669 --> 01:41:13,040
we we don't discuss things before we get

2951
01:41:15,030 --> 01:41:13,679
together

2952
01:41:17,430 --> 01:41:15,040
the three of us are in different

2953
01:41:21,189 --> 01:41:17,440
continents uh presently

2954
01:41:23,590 --> 01:41:21,199
um uh and so like dan's in the uk

2955
01:41:24,229 --> 01:41:23,600
uh buttons is in new zealand i'm here in

2956
01:41:27,590 --> 01:41:24,239
l.a

2957
01:41:28,149 --> 01:41:27,600
at the moment and we we get out we get

2958
01:41:29,910 --> 01:41:28,159
our uh

2959
01:41:31,510 --> 01:41:29,920
we get our stories and then we surprise

2960
01:41:34,070 --> 01:41:31,520
each other with the headlines

2961
01:41:35,590 --> 01:41:34,080
and we and then we um we kind of outdo

2962
01:41:35,910 --> 01:41:35,600
each other with the spookiness and then

2963
01:41:44,149 --> 01:41:35,920
we

2964
01:41:45,990 --> 01:41:44,159
and first and foremost um

2965
01:41:47,430 --> 01:41:46,000
yeah we have a great laugh and it's

2966
01:41:50,390 --> 01:41:47,440
entertainment um

2967
01:41:51,830 --> 01:41:50,400
but we uh do what we have done on the

2968
01:41:56,229 --> 01:41:51,840
aliens like us and that

2969
01:41:58,390 --> 01:41:56,239
is um hypothesize and uh

2970
01:41:59,270 --> 01:41:58,400
yeah just try and answer the mysteries

2971
01:42:01,990 --> 01:41:59,280
of the world

2972
01:42:04,149 --> 01:42:02,000
so that that podcast has been going uh

2973
01:42:06,310 --> 01:42:04,159
since 2008 it actually started

2974
01:42:07,990 --> 01:42:06,320
on the actual radio in new zealand we

2975
01:42:10,870 --> 01:42:08,000
were on a dance station

2976
01:42:11,669 --> 01:42:10,880
called george and we were on saturday

2977
01:42:14,390 --> 01:42:11,679
mornings

2978
01:42:15,189 --> 01:42:14,400
um so people would be coming off a high

2979
01:42:17,430 --> 01:42:15,199
listening to

2980
01:42:19,270 --> 01:42:17,440
unstopped music all night and then all

2981
01:42:21,030 --> 01:42:19,280
of a sudden our theme tune would come on

2982
01:42:21,910 --> 01:42:21,040
and we'd be discussing sasquatch and

2983
01:42:24,310 --> 01:42:21,920
theories

2984
01:42:25,109 --> 01:42:24,320
and we'd get a lot of people like uh

2985
01:42:27,510 --> 01:42:25,119
texting us

2986
01:42:29,750 --> 01:42:27,520
saying stop encouraging this [\h__\h]

2987
01:42:32,629 --> 01:42:29,760
and that kind of became our motto

2988
01:42:33,189 --> 01:42:32,639
so we've been uh encouraging bs since

2989
01:42:34,870 --> 01:42:33,199
then

2990
01:42:37,430 --> 01:42:34,880
and it went to different radio stations

2991
01:42:40,790 --> 01:42:37,440
we got fired from george we met we moved

2992
01:42:43,109 --> 01:42:40,800
to another radio station a student won

2993
01:42:45,189 --> 01:42:43,119
and then we moved from that to uh

2994
01:42:47,430 --> 01:42:45,199
another uh another station that was

2995
01:42:48,229 --> 01:42:47,440
uh in the middle of a shopping mall and

2996
01:42:50,550 --> 01:42:48,239
we were

2997
01:42:52,070 --> 01:42:50,560
the three of us uh uh this is when

2998
01:42:54,390 --> 01:42:52,080
farrier was on the show

2999
01:42:55,750 --> 01:42:54,400
uh would be in this shopping mall with

3000
01:42:57,430 --> 01:42:55,760
these microphones people would be

3001
01:42:59,990 --> 01:42:57,440
walking past with their

3002
01:43:01,750 --> 01:43:00,000
with their bags and stuff and ice creams

3003
01:43:04,870 --> 01:43:01,760
and we'd be having our headphones on

3004
01:43:07,030 --> 01:43:04,880
you know talking about ufos and things

3005
01:43:08,310 --> 01:43:07,040
it was it was just we just love the

3006
01:43:10,470 --> 01:43:08,320
bizarreness we have

3007
01:43:12,550 --> 01:43:10,480
matching berets and t-shirts that we

3008
01:43:14,070 --> 01:43:12,560
wear and it's kind of like it's kind of

3009
01:43:17,350 --> 01:43:14,080
like the ghostbusters

3010
01:43:17,830 --> 01:43:17,360
on heat um and so it's a lot of fun but

3011
01:43:20,550 --> 01:43:17,840
also

3012
01:43:22,950 --> 01:43:20,560
yeah it's a passion and and so that

3013
01:43:23,510 --> 01:43:22,960
podcast which in itself was encrypted

3014
01:43:25,189 --> 01:43:23,520
because we

3015
01:43:26,950 --> 01:43:25,199
would only be able to do it when we

3016
01:43:27,830 --> 01:43:26,960
could get to do it sometimes would be

3017
01:43:30,550 --> 01:43:27,840
once every

3018
01:43:32,229 --> 01:43:30,560
third week or uh and we'd put it up on

3019
01:43:33,030 --> 01:43:32,239
online and people would go ah we've

3020
01:43:37,030 --> 01:43:33,040
discovered

3021
01:43:39,510 --> 01:43:37,040
another another one of your uh show

3022
01:43:40,709 --> 01:43:39,520
but but as of lately we've got back

3023
01:43:43,669 --> 01:43:40,719
together and it is now

3024
01:43:45,189 --> 01:43:43,679
weekly and uh so it's this is the best

3025
01:43:46,550 --> 01:43:45,199
we've ever done with it um and i think

3026
01:43:49,350 --> 01:43:46,560
it's because the world's

3027
01:43:49,910 --> 01:43:49,360
a bit screwed and we're all kind of uh

3028
01:43:53,030 --> 01:43:49,920
well

3029
01:43:54,709 --> 01:43:53,040
we're out of work let's be honest and so

3030
01:43:56,310 --> 01:43:54,719
so that's one positive that's come out

3031
01:43:59,109 --> 01:43:56,320
of 2020 and so

3032
01:44:01,830 --> 01:43:59,119
it's on it's on all the networks uh it's

3033
01:44:04,550 --> 01:44:01,840
on spotify and uh it's on soundcloud

3034
01:44:06,070 --> 01:44:04,560
and itunes i think and we're trying to

3035
01:44:08,790 --> 01:44:06,080
and by the way it's not monetized

3036
01:44:09,830 --> 01:44:08,800
with a complete hobby um so yeah that

3037
01:44:12,310 --> 01:44:09,840
that's where we're at

3038
01:44:14,149 --> 01:44:12,320
um we've actually tried to turn into a

3039
01:44:17,109 --> 01:44:14,159
tv show a couple of times

3040
01:44:18,229 --> 01:44:17,119
um i think it'll be great um but we once

3041
01:44:20,470 --> 01:44:18,239
one of the ones we did

3042
01:44:22,550 --> 01:44:20,480
we did it for discovery and they were

3043
01:44:23,990 --> 01:44:22,560
like someone someone really loved us

3044
01:44:25,590 --> 01:44:24,000
and and then and then the upper

3045
01:44:27,669 --> 01:44:25,600
management when they saw the pilot

3046
01:44:30,709 --> 01:44:27,679
they just went you guys are just mad

3047
01:44:32,310 --> 01:44:30,719
well no one's going to watch this

3048
01:44:33,990 --> 01:44:32,320
and and so we kind of took that as a

3049
01:44:36,310 --> 01:44:34,000
badge of honor as well because

3050
01:44:37,189 --> 01:44:36,320
okay i guess your audience is not for us

3051
01:44:40,229 --> 01:44:37,199
uh but

3052
01:44:42,310 --> 01:44:40,239
it's you know um it really is the

3053
01:44:44,470 --> 01:44:42,320
it is the choo choo train that never

3054
01:44:48,390 --> 01:44:44,480
stops uh so that's the cryptid factor

3055
01:44:51,030 --> 01:44:48,400
um awesome man hey encouraging bs since

3056
01:44:53,510 --> 01:44:51,040
2008 there's the t-shirt right there

3057
01:44:54,070 --> 01:44:53,520
i'm in let me know when it's available

3058
01:44:55,910 --> 01:44:54,080
but no

3059
01:44:57,430 --> 01:44:55,920
i i've recently started listening to

3060
01:45:00,709 --> 01:44:57,440
that one as well i love it

3061
01:45:02,709 --> 01:45:00,719
um here's another project i'd love to um

3062
01:45:04,310 --> 01:45:02,719
to throw to our audience especially our

3063
01:45:06,070 --> 01:45:04,320
new zealand audience um

3064
01:45:08,390 --> 01:45:06,080
big in japan can you tell us a little

3065
01:45:10,870 --> 01:45:08,400
about this uh oh yeah

3066
01:45:12,790 --> 01:45:10,880
yeah um what what brought this project

3067
01:45:13,510 --> 01:45:12,800
about and what was your experience like

3068
01:45:17,189 --> 01:45:13,520
going

3069
01:45:20,070 --> 01:45:17,199
lived there twice now

3070
01:45:22,149 --> 01:45:20,080
um speaks pretty good japanese but i am

3071
01:45:25,590 --> 01:45:22,159
terrified man um culture shock

3072
01:45:28,629 --> 01:45:25,600
is not my thing so what was it like yeah

3073
01:45:31,669 --> 01:45:28,639
total culture shock uh yeah yeah so uh

3074
01:45:33,990 --> 01:45:31,679
so basically that was um a really

3075
01:45:34,709 --> 01:45:34,000
awesome experience it came about because

3076
01:45:37,990 --> 01:45:34,719
of the

3077
01:45:41,030 --> 01:45:38,000
uh supposed 2020 olympics

3078
01:45:44,870 --> 01:45:41,040
being held in japan so the idea was

3079
01:45:47,270 --> 01:45:44,880
uh to make a show for um

3080
01:45:49,030 --> 01:45:47,280
the australasians the south pacific

3081
01:45:51,430 --> 01:45:49,040
where i'm from down under

3082
01:45:52,550 --> 01:45:51,440
uh to give them a little bit of a

3083
01:45:56,070 --> 01:45:52,560
culture woohoo

3084
01:45:57,830 --> 01:45:56,080
about uh what japan's like uh and so i

3085
01:45:59,510 --> 01:45:57,840
was sent over there on assignment if you

3086
01:46:01,430 --> 01:45:59,520
will um

3087
01:46:03,189 --> 01:46:01,440
and there i was i'd never been there

3088
01:46:03,750 --> 01:46:03,199
always on the top list of places i want

3089
01:46:05,669 --> 01:46:03,760
to go

3090
01:46:07,430 --> 01:46:05,679
um and it usually is for people because

3091
01:46:09,590 --> 01:46:07,440
it is so different and um

3092
01:46:11,270 --> 01:46:09,600
so interesting and so many cool pop

3093
01:46:12,550 --> 01:46:11,280
culture things come out of japan that

3094
01:46:17,030 --> 01:46:12,560
that uh

3095
01:46:18,070 --> 01:46:17,040
cool things in the western world that we

3096
01:46:21,109 --> 01:46:18,080
end up you know we

3097
01:46:24,070 --> 01:46:21,119
we the original ideas are from japan

3098
01:46:25,430 --> 01:46:24,080
also i'm a big robot fiend so it just

3099
01:46:27,510 --> 01:46:25,440
made sense for me to

3100
01:46:29,669 --> 01:46:27,520
to be part of this the other thing i'll

3101
01:46:32,709 --> 01:46:29,679
say is that it was possibly the last

3102
01:46:35,910 --> 01:46:32,719
travel show created uh because

3103
01:46:39,189 --> 01:46:35,920
i did it this year um and i was in

3104
01:46:42,790 --> 01:46:39,199
japan uh in january through to

3105
01:46:45,350 --> 01:46:42,800
february so for five weeks um

3106
01:46:46,950 --> 01:46:45,360
and and then right before the world yeah

3107
01:46:49,590 --> 01:46:46,960
covered struck while i was there

3108
01:46:51,189 --> 01:46:49,600
so the last week and a half my wife was

3109
01:46:53,590 --> 01:46:51,199
like you better get out of there

3110
01:46:55,430 --> 01:46:53,600
uh you know because i was there's a

3111
01:46:57,030 --> 01:46:55,440
close part of the world to to where

3112
01:47:00,149 --> 01:46:57,040
things were really kicking off

3113
01:47:02,229 --> 01:47:00,159
and um so i finished up with it um

3114
01:47:03,669 --> 01:47:02,239
wore a mask heavily in the last week or

3115
01:47:05,669 --> 01:47:03,679
so and then and then

3116
01:47:07,350 --> 01:47:05,679
and then got out you know but uh what a

3117
01:47:10,470 --> 01:47:07,360
time uh my my kid

3118
01:47:12,629 --> 01:47:10,480
uh my eldest boy finn uh uh

3119
01:47:14,149 --> 01:47:12,639
takes japanese school he's getting real

3120
01:47:15,990 --> 01:47:14,159
good with the language loves the culture

3121
01:47:18,149 --> 01:47:16,000
it was very jealous i was over there

3122
01:47:19,750 --> 01:47:18,159
so i was uh i was thinking of him a lot

3123
01:47:21,990 --> 01:47:19,760
and i was getting down some good

3124
01:47:23,510 --> 01:47:22,000
groundwork so that i could return there

3125
01:47:25,030 --> 01:47:23,520
with the family because i know he really

3126
01:47:26,470 --> 01:47:25,040
wants to go um

3127
01:47:27,990 --> 01:47:26,480
of course you know then the world turned

3128
01:47:29,030 --> 01:47:28,000
upside down and then the olympics didn't

3129
01:47:31,669 --> 01:47:29,040
even happen

3130
01:47:33,990 --> 01:47:31,679
uh and so but we managed to get the show

3131
01:47:36,629 --> 01:47:34,000
out so it was called um

3132
01:47:37,189 --> 01:47:36,639
rhys derby big in japan uh hit the new

3133
01:47:39,430 --> 01:47:37,199
zealand

3134
01:47:41,270 --> 01:47:39,440
uh television screens and i believe it's

3135
01:47:43,109 --> 01:47:41,280
going to australia next

3136
01:47:46,550 --> 01:47:43,119
uh where it's just called reese derby in

3137
01:47:51,109 --> 01:47:49,270
turns out it wasn't so big um not so big

3138
01:47:53,430 --> 01:47:51,119
yeah it was great you know i got i got a

3139
01:47:56,229 --> 01:47:53,440
couple of recognizers there i was in a

3140
01:47:58,070 --> 01:47:56,239
it was in a very a geeky part uh where

3141
01:47:59,750 --> 01:47:58,080
all these figurines and comics

3142
01:48:01,189 --> 01:47:59,760
and stuff like that i go to those places

3143
01:48:04,229 --> 01:48:01,199
quite a bit um

3144
01:48:06,229 --> 01:48:04,239
i forget the japanese word for it uh but

3145
01:48:07,590 --> 01:48:06,239
uh i got recognized from the x-files

3146
01:48:10,629 --> 01:48:07,600
when i was in this uh

3147
01:48:14,070 --> 01:48:10,639
figurine and comic book store and uh

3148
01:48:16,149 --> 01:48:14,080
yeah and so that was really cool these

3149
01:48:18,550 --> 01:48:16,159
japanese fans were very excited i saw

3150
01:48:21,910 --> 01:48:18,560
this rock band uh

3151
01:48:23,830 --> 01:48:21,920
that um the audience was i i this can't

3152
01:48:27,350 --> 01:48:23,840
be right but i'm thinking it was like 10

3153
01:48:30,470 --> 01:48:27,360
000 people in this uh this audience um

3154
01:48:33,750 --> 01:48:30,480
it was called uh was it called baby

3155
01:48:35,270 --> 01:48:33,760
like uh baby rock or baby anyway

3156
01:48:37,030 --> 01:48:35,280
some of the listeners will know that the

3157
01:48:40,790 --> 01:48:37,040
name of this this rock band

3158
01:48:41,590 --> 01:48:40,800
um and uh yeah i said that was just a

3159
01:48:44,709 --> 01:48:41,600
couple of these

3160
01:48:48,229 --> 01:48:44,719
great i also trained to be a samurai um

3161
01:48:50,070 --> 01:48:48,239
and i and i created this mascot

3162
01:48:52,470 --> 01:48:50,080
uh and and walked around and went to a

3163
01:48:55,270 --> 01:48:52,480
snow festival a fire festival

3164
01:48:57,350 --> 01:48:55,280
i i really almost clocked japan in five

3165
01:49:00,390 --> 01:48:57,360
weeks it was a fantastic

3166
01:49:01,990 --> 01:49:00,400
tastic trip yeah that's awesome man yeah

3167
01:49:03,750 --> 01:49:02,000
they're big on their uh mascots there

3168
01:49:06,709 --> 01:49:03,760
i've noticed we've got um

3169
01:49:07,669 --> 01:49:06,719
hikonian which is the samurai cat all

3170
01:49:09,590 --> 01:49:07,679
over our

3171
01:49:11,030 --> 01:49:09,600
apartment back in new york city because

3172
01:49:13,350 --> 01:49:11,040
that was the uh

3173
01:49:14,629 --> 01:49:13,360
every small prefecture has like their

3174
01:49:17,669 --> 01:49:14,639
own basket you know

3175
01:49:19,350 --> 01:49:17,679
even cool yeah they call it the yurikata

3176
01:49:20,950 --> 01:49:19,360
and yeah it's a really cool thing

3177
01:49:23,350 --> 01:49:20,960
because japanese people are

3178
01:49:24,950 --> 01:49:23,360
kind of shy and there's not this and to

3179
01:49:26,470 --> 01:49:24,960
their credit they're not touchy fairly

3180
01:49:29,510 --> 01:49:26,480
which is great in this era

3181
01:49:30,629 --> 01:49:29,520
but uh they do but they do like they do

3182
01:49:34,070 --> 01:49:30,639
really connect with

3183
01:49:34,790 --> 01:49:34,080
uh inanimate uh objects of of uh of

3184
01:49:36,470 --> 01:49:34,800
characters

3185
01:49:38,470 --> 01:49:36,480
and things and so i i think that was

3186
01:49:40,310 --> 01:49:38,480
really cool and a lot of other countries

3187
01:49:42,790 --> 01:49:40,320
there they they would that was more

3188
01:49:43,189 --> 01:49:42,800
likely to mock the idea of a of a mascot

3189
01:49:45,270 --> 01:49:43,199
or

3190
01:49:46,470 --> 01:49:45,280
you know you know what we can tend to be

3191
01:49:47,750 --> 01:49:46,480
like you you'll

3192
01:49:49,430 --> 01:49:47,760
you'll push it or something like that

3193
01:49:51,270 --> 01:49:49,440
i've been a mascot in new zealand in a

3194
01:49:53,189 --> 01:49:51,280
parade where someone's just kicked me

3195
01:49:54,629 --> 01:49:53,199
you know but that stuff would not happen

3196
01:49:57,109 --> 01:49:54,639
in japan it's all hugs

3197
01:49:57,830 --> 01:49:57,119
and and and photographs and it's a

3198
01:50:02,149 --> 01:49:57,840
really good

3199
01:50:02,390 --> 01:50:02,159
there and a very disciplined culture so

3200
01:50:11,910 --> 01:50:02,400
i

3201
01:50:15,030 --> 01:50:11,920
able to

3202
01:50:17,589 --> 01:50:15,040
to travel again and

3203
01:50:19,510 --> 01:50:17,599
finger i know i know if everyone you

3204
01:50:21,669 --> 01:50:19,520
know pulls their weight but um

3205
01:50:23,189 --> 01:50:21,679
man this has been amazing again you know

3206
01:50:24,870 --> 01:50:23,199
while the world kind of

3207
01:50:26,629 --> 01:50:24,880
falls apart there are things to look

3208
01:50:27,990 --> 01:50:26,639
forward to and the fact that i got to

3209
01:50:29,990 --> 01:50:28,000
get you on here today

3210
01:50:32,229 --> 01:50:30,000
huge honor i'm a huge fan of everything

3211
01:50:33,910 --> 01:50:32,239
you do yes i'm going to fanboy out right

3212
01:50:35,990 --> 01:50:33,920
now

3213
01:50:37,750 --> 01:50:36,000
but um the fact that you have these

3214
01:50:38,390 --> 01:50:37,760
interests only makes you that much

3215
01:50:42,390 --> 01:50:38,400
cooler

3216
01:50:43,750 --> 01:50:42,400
in my eyes and i'm sure so um yeah

3217
01:50:45,750 --> 01:50:43,760
thank you for coming on is there

3218
01:50:47,990 --> 01:50:45,760
anywhere that our listeners can uh

3219
01:50:49,910 --> 01:50:48,000
find you on your social media to uh ask

3220
01:50:52,310 --> 01:50:49,920
you some more questions

3221
01:50:52,950 --> 01:50:52,320
uh yeah i'm on i'm on twitter uh i don't

3222
01:50:54,550 --> 01:50:52,960
do it much

3223
01:50:55,910 --> 01:50:54,560
at the moment the last few things i'll

3224
01:50:56,870 --> 01:50:55,920
be doing on it is just to i've

3225
01:50:58,629 --> 01:50:56,880
discovered why

3226
01:51:00,070 --> 01:50:58,639
why what i want to do with it and let's

3227
01:51:02,149 --> 01:51:00,080
just put out little poems

3228
01:51:03,430 --> 01:51:02,159
every now and again just to uh make

3229
01:51:05,109 --> 01:51:03,440
people smile or whatever

3230
01:51:06,229 --> 01:51:05,119
because i don't like to have opinions on

3231
01:51:07,910 --> 01:51:06,239
things or whatever there's enough of

3232
01:51:08,870 --> 01:51:07,920
that going on and a lot of twitter is

3233
01:51:12,229 --> 01:51:08,880
negative

3234
01:51:14,149 --> 01:51:12,239
uh i'm also on um

3235
01:51:15,910 --> 01:51:14,159
facebook i have a fan site on that you

3236
01:51:18,390 --> 01:51:15,920
can just find me there

3237
01:51:20,310 --> 01:51:18,400
um and instagram as well so it's it's

3238
01:51:23,830 --> 01:51:20,320
normally either it's

3239
01:51:25,669 --> 01:51:23,840
r h y s i e d a r b y reese

3240
01:51:27,990 --> 01:51:25,679
derby is one of the one of the hooks i

3241
01:51:30,550 --> 01:51:28,000
go with um

3242
01:51:32,470 --> 01:51:30,560
other than that you know google may find

3243
01:51:35,189 --> 01:51:32,480
me and uh if i'm if i'm

3244
01:51:35,910 --> 01:51:35,199
if i'm uh if i'm not working out on the

3245
01:51:39,830 --> 01:51:35,920
peloton

3246
01:51:41,750 --> 01:51:39,840
or writing jokes i'll uh i'll answer you

3247
01:51:43,589 --> 01:51:41,760
brother okay keep it man hey look

3248
01:51:44,229 --> 01:51:43,599
there's the factor symbol at the back

3249
01:51:49,910 --> 01:51:44,239
there see

3250
01:51:52,950 --> 01:51:51,910
yeah we'll have to get you in aliens

3251
01:51:56,149 --> 01:51:52,960
like us one made

3252
01:51:57,830 --> 01:51:56,159
next but um dude again thank you so much

3253
01:51:58,550 --> 01:51:57,840
for coming on somewhere in the skies

3254
01:52:01,270 --> 01:51:58,560
today

3255
01:52:02,709 --> 01:52:01,280
and uh we'll talk soon yeah man and

3256
01:52:05,430 --> 01:52:02,719
thank you keep up the good work

3257
01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:05,440
uh great show and uh keep fighting the

3258
01:52:25,510 --> 01:52:16,090
good fight i'm with you all the way